"PACQUIAO BEATING SPENCE IS THE GREATEST WIN IN 147LBS HISTORY, IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE!"

[Spoon23]

It is meaningful in several ways.

1. First, it is for The Ring title, and i’m pretty sure it will crown a Lineal champion as well. Both Ring/Lineal are vacant. The last fighter who held the Lineal title was Manny Pacquiao. But he vacated it due to inactivity.

2. This an intriguing fight because it could be a “passing of the torch”, where Thurman failed. If Spence succeeds then we officially move on from the Money/Pacman era.

3. If Pacquiao wins he will be Ring/Lineal champion again. This would put him among one of the oldest fighters to win The Ring/Lineal title ever. And probably the oldest welterweight to do it. Hopkins did it at 46 at 175. George Foreman became HW Lineal champion at 45. Pacquiao is 42, if he does it, I think it would make him the 3rd oldest fighter in history to win the Lineal championship.

4. If Spence is damaged goods if Pacquiao wins, then boxing is trash. There is no such thing as a good boxer then and no fighter should get credit for a win ever again. If we’re really going down that route. Let’s not give any credit to any fighter.

5. While Pacman is old, historically old HOF’ers need to get beat up to retire, most of the time. Sure you have Hagler, Mayweather, Marciano, Calzaghe, Vitali Klitschko. But most of the time, HOF fighters get beat in to retirement. No one has beaten Pacquiao up, barring the JMM KO, which realistically speaking, Pac didn’t necessarily get beat up there. Sure Pacquiao is old and past prime but someone has to show the fans that. Someone has to step up. Plain and simple. Bradley could not do it. Thurman could not do it. It’s up to Spence. If Spence can’t beat Pacquiao, you can make pre-made excuses all you want but for fans and media, that would be very impressive for Pacquiao.

So elitist boxing fans can play down a Pacquiao win all they want, but to most fans, they will give Pacquiao massive credit. As well as The Ring, and those who follow Lineages. It would be a highly impressive win. It is also a necessary win for Spence’s legacy. In order to move forward as an elite WW, he needs this win. Pacquiao is old and past prime? Okay, Spence winning will show this and then we can move on from the story of Pacman. We can’t move on if none of these younger welterweights can step up to the old guy.

You covered everything that needs to be said. No stones left unturned. Excellent post.

[Spoon23]

I find it bizarre that you would ask that, in that manner, from my post. Spanish is my native language, English is my second. So I was second guessing myself as to why an American, who only speaks English I assume, would come up with such a specific question like that from my post. Like you asked it as if I said that, comparing Pacquiao vs Spence to Duran vs SRL. Just threw me completely off. Then you have an idiot quoting you saying “yeah that’s right there is no comparison!”. Suddenly, you turned my post into “this guy said Pac vs Spence is like Duran vs SRL.” And since it’s a fairly long post, no dummy will read it. They will go by what you read. Just bizarre all around. Americans need to get better at English comprehension. You guys have one language to learn, it’s really not that hard. I had to learn two languages.

BigDunn goes Down again!

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[-Kev-]

So I can't have my opinion? The thread speaks for itself. And who said it didn't matter.

I know what we can do. We'll all just agree and never mind all this typing. And fa ck off!

I mean you can also stop watching boxing since no win is greater than Duran over SRL. I mean why keep watching boxing past 1980? Boxers might as well pack up and go do something else with their life since they will never be seen as great as Duran or SRL. Pacquiao and Spence might as well just go play chess or Connect 4 or something, because their fight is so meaningless.

You got one dude talking about The Ring belt is sh.t. You got another dude using Duran over SRL as a measuring stick to great upset wins. Then Pacquiao was never lineal champion at 147 when he actually was.

Boxing fans are clearly a pack of sh.t brains.

[KingOfGlory]

It would be an amazing accomplishment for sure. It would be a disaster for Spence and the future of the division though.

Anything less than a dominant performance and KO for Spence makes the current generation look terrible.

[KillaMane26]

Great win but not greatest.

Duran vs SRL is easily better.

[hugh grant]

Great win but not greatest.

Duran vs SRL is easily better.

Don't think so. Duran was a young guy he didn't do anything a young guy in prime isn't supposed to do. A former great lightweight beating WW, yawn yawn it's been done.
what Pac is doing hasn't been done, isn't expected to be. Pac beating Spence is considerably better win

[Butt stuff]

Bold 2: Pac has nothing to pass on to Spence. He has no torch, or anything else for that matter. It's not even a good win for Spence, IMO. The guy has 7 losses, with some disputed wins. He's 1-3 against Marquez. I only gave Pac the first. Unless the torch is an empty handshake, the expression doesn't quite fit.

Wow this is an incredibly bad take. Pac is an ATG with an incredible resume, he has the best one out of anyone active today.

Take 90% of his achievements away and he’s still currently one of the top Welters and beat the then no.2/3 unbeaten welter in Thurman to take his title.

[KillaMane26]

Don't think so. Duran was a young guy he didn't do anything a young guy in prime isn't supposed to do. A former great lightweight beating WW, yawn yawn it's been done.
what Pac is doing hasn't been done, isn't expected to be. Pac beating Spence is considerably better win

Yawn my ass..... Duran beat a ATG WW in his prime.

Your too biased to have a debate with regarding Manny.... let's be honest.

Not often you have two ATG fighting in their primes. Yawn my black ass

[hugh grant]

Yawn my ass..... Duran beat a ATG WW in his prime.

Your too biased to have a debate with regarding Manny.... let's be honest.

Not often you have two ATG fighting in their primes. Yawn my black ass

You think in cliche too much. Yes. Duran is beating a greater fighter historically, and so is Turpin beating srr. . But they're not better than a pac win over Spence. There's more to take into considerarion
What pac is doing hasnt been done. Giving all advantages away, size, age, history is against pac.
Pac beating Spence is a special win. A level above Duran beating SRL which is only a great win. The fact that pac is even in a position to be fighting Spence is mind boggling in itself at this point in PACs career, after all he's done and coming back from being koed. Somebody had to beat SRL, so why not a prime Duran? Somebody had to beat srr, so why not a prime Turpin? Somebody has to beat Spence also, but you wouldn't expect it to be a former flyweight with 70 fights under belt at tail end of career
Taking everything into consideration it's not close.

[KillaMane26]

You think in cliche too much. Yes. Duran is beating a greater fighter historically, and so is Turpin beating srr. . But they're not better than a pac win over Spence. There's more to take into considerarion
What pac is doing hasnt been done. Giving all advantages away, size, age, history is against pac.
Pac beating Spence is a special win. A level above Duran beating SRL which is only a great win. The fact that pac is even in a position to be fighting Spence is mind boggling in itself at this point in PACs career, after all he's done and coming back from being koed. Somebody had to beat SRL, so why not a prime Duran? Somebody had to beat srr, so why not a prime Turpin? Somebody has to beat Spence also, but you wouldn't expect it to be a former flyweight with 70 fights under belt at tail end of career
Taking everything into consideration it's not close.

Look we Gon have to agree to disagree.

ATG beating ATG in their Prime means more to me.

And I rate Duran and SRL higher.

It's a great win, no debate there. But I disagree with it being a better win than Duran beating the great SRL