Terence BUD VS Pretty Boy Floyd @ 140

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • SplitSecond
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Nov 2009
    • 23151
    • 1,715
    • 1,187
    • 85,044

    #51
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    T is PBF on a budget

    he starts slow and takes long to figure guys out
    That’s a misconception. Crawford starts “slow”, but only for the fights he starts as orthodox. He didn’t have any problems dominating from the get go vs Indongo, Diaz, Horn, Molina, etc. When he started as southpaw. And he dominates almost immediately once he turns southpaw in the middle of other fights.

    The only fights I’ve seen Crawford start and keep orthodox was against bums like Dulorme, and Khan who didn’t challenge him. When it gets serious Crawford will always turn southpaw, and it’s a completely different beast.
    Last edited by SplitSecond; 07-23-2021, 01:47 PM.

    Comment

    • Marchegiano
      Banned
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • Aug 2010
      • 12208
      • 1,790
      • 2,307
      • 165,288

      #52
      Hard vote for Floyd here. PBF was mean as ****.

      Comment

      • Marchegiano
        Banned
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Aug 2010
        • 12208
        • 1,790
        • 2,307
        • 165,288

        #53
        Originally posted by SplitSecond

        That’s a misconception. Crawford starts “slow”, but only for the fights he starts as orthodox. He didn’t have any problems dominating from the get go vs Indongo, Diaz, Horn, Molina, etc. When he started as southpaw. And he dominates almost immediately once he turns southpaw in the middle of other fights.

        The only fights I’ve seen Crawford start and keep orthodox was against bums like Dulorme, and Khan who didn’t challenge him. When it gets serious Crawford will always turn southpaw, and it’s a completely different beast.
        That's fair but you could also say he dominated because it's only Indongo, Diaz, Horn, and Molina though.

        Comment

        • SplitSecond
          Undisputed Champion
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Nov 2009
          • 23151
          • 1,715
          • 1,187
          • 85,044

          #54
          Originally posted by Marchegiano

          That's fair but you could also say he dominated because it's only Indongo, Diaz, Horn, and Molina though.
          Read the part after I list those names. In every fight thus far, when he turns southpaw it’s basically that’s all she wrote/a wrap. Postol was another where he started southpaw. The point is there is no “start slow” phase where he’s getting outboxed and caught easily when he starts southpaw.
          Last edited by SplitSecond; 07-23-2021, 01:57 PM.

          Comment

          • HrNY
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Feb 2019
            • 3941
            • 2,040
            • 2,260
            • 48,888

            #55
            Will still have to go with Floyd. When Crawford's best guy on his resume was against Gamboa, can't see how I can not pick Floyd.

            Comment

            • Marchegiano
              Banned
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Aug 2010
              • 12208
              • 1,790
              • 2,307
              • 165,288

              #56
              Originally posted by SplitSecond

              Read the part after I list those names. In every fight thus far, when he turns southpaw it’s basically that’s all she wrote/a wrap. Postol was another where he started southpaw. The point is there is no “start slow” phase where he’s getting outboxed and caught easily when he starts southpaw.
              You ain't wrong bud.

              Comment

              • GrandpaBernard
                Banned
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • May 2010
                • 17156
                • 4,480
                • 2,947
                • 114,399

                #57
                I don’t see Bud having any stylistic edge.

                Floyd’s toughest opponents were educated pressure skilled Latin fighters

                Bud has a unique style yes. But so did manny and Floyd still 10-2’d or 9-3’d his azz

                and manny is a level or three above Bud

                Comment

                • blowblow
                  #1 Blow by Blow Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 2419
                  • 196
                  • 287
                  • 24,162

                  #58
                  Originally posted by BodyBagz
                  No one beats PBF.
                  of course he went on vacation, cherrypicked and ducked a real threat fighters that's no brainer..

                  Comment

                  • F l i c k e r
                    Il Principe
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20737
                    • 1,323
                    • 858
                    • 83,771

                    #59
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    None of those guys box like Crawford. Crawford has a very unique style.
                    At the bare bones, Crawford is just an athletic boxer with hand speed and A+ power that he over relies on. That's what I mean.

                    Other than that, I see a technical deficient boxer who throws punches from weird angles like Wilder, David Haye, etc.

                    Because of it, I don't see him giving Floyd much issues. If you telegraph punches with Floyd, he's going to pick you apart. It's why Canelo got box the way he did.

                    Comment

                    • djtmal
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 12995
                      • 1,276
                      • 11
                      • 39,097

                      #60
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      I don’t see Bud having any stylistic edge.

                      Floyd’s toughest opponents were educated pressure skilled Latin fighters

                      Bud has a unique style yes. But so did manny and Floyd still 10-2’d or 9-3’d his azz

                      and manny is a level or three above Bud
                      Floyd's toughest opponents were the guys he ducked like Paul Williams, Winky Wright, Khan, Thurman. Guys who can box ar range with him.
                      Fighters like Bud Crawford Floyd ducked his whole career. Zab Judah was having some success but he had stamina and focus issues.

                      Floyd had height and reach on Manny but he was too scared of the speed power and angles that Manny uses. That's why he ducked him until after Marquez ko'd him and he lost about three steps, and he was still scared to go to to toe with him.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP