Comments Thread For: Hearn: Fury-Wilder Sold No Tickets, It Would Have Did Very Poorly on PPV

[DougalDylan]

An AJ ppv would be 35$ they were proposing 50 for Fury. Aj sells ppvs in other countries eg New Zealand.
American networks take a higher percentage of revenue see Bob Arum,
Arum said he wanted the UK PPV model rather than the ****ty US one.

Wilder Fury PPV took a massive advertising budget and lost money see Bruce Trampler (Top Rank) who should know.

Dude, use your brain. He means in terms of revenue. US PPVs are $70-80 a pop. Sometimes as high as $100. UK's PPVs are $30 a pop, if that.



I literally just quoted a source. What are you talking about? Also, you seem to be forgetting that its 450k in the UK alone. Joshua doesn't trend or sell in the US at all. And, even then, his fights are on an app. Wilder and Fury are bigger global names than Joshua is at this point. That much is obvious. The world doesn't reside in the UK and believe me when I tell you that Hearn would sell his mother if he could get a chance to sniff that glorious US PPV revenue that Arum and Haymon enjoy.

[Jack Rivers]

Heavyweight boxing has been dead in the US for a very long time. Not too many people know Wilder nor do they care to invest their time to catch up on one fighter. Unless you are a boxing fan, the average bandwagon fan isn't there like they were for mike tyson. Too many other better fighters in smaller divisions that fought real competitive opponents. Wilder's only real significant opponent is fury and most of those seats filled in fight 1 and 2 were by Brits.

If UK fans can't travel then of course this fight will only fill 30% of the stadium. Plus the prices are too high. They are gouging. Most people will spend their moneys elsewhere like other sporting events, concerts, vacations ect.. Wilder isn't worth the investment to Americans to spend 500 plus dollars on for a ticket.

[DougalDylan]

.. or the sales could have been terrible as checking the site on the ticket site reveals .. that looks like facts.

Bruce Templar of Top Rank says the last fight lost money but you know better?

Perhaps you're the bitter one with an agenda?

I think Hearn is just bitter because fury and wilder are about to have their third matchup and Aj continues to remain on the outside looking in. Hearn believed that They would be begging for an Aj fight and would take much lower percentages to fight him but instead, fury and wilder made their own lane and Aj wound up getting pummeled into submission by a fat 30-1 underdog. Now he has more of an urgency to get Aj that big pay day before he gets exposed again.

[Jab jab boom]

.. or the sales could have been terrible as checking the site on the ticket site reveals .. that looks like facts.

Bruce Templar of Top Rank says the last fight lost money but you know better?

Perhaps you're the bitter one with an agenda?

I have no agenda as I’m not a fan of any of the three nor do I make or lose any money on who fights and who doesn’t. Hearn has nothing to do with fury or wilder yet he can’t keep their names out of his mouth. So I made the assumption that it’s likely because his guy has been on the outside looking in and has been stuck fighting the pulevs of the world and getting pummeled by Ruiz. Now if that opinion hit a nerve seeing as you’re likely an enormous Aj fan, I really couldn’t care less.

[REDEEMER]

Meh, I don't know.

I'm not sure it would have done poor numbers, but then I'm actually questioning whether it would have been a rousing success either.

I initially thought people would have been excited to see what has become a genuine grudge rivalry, but then I think the recency of Covid would have made it hard to assume it would have generated significant buzz to sell out a stadium. I also think Fury's recent pull out will only further dent the fights marketability.

In truth though, its not like Hearn is really in a particularly strong position either. Check out the numbers below, and that was the first Povetkin Whyte fight...

https://www.***************.net/2020...n-ppv-numbers/

That was his fourth consecutive poor sales in five PPVs. In truth, I am starting to get the impression he likely wasn't massively keen on leaving Sky, but they weren't willing to offer anything better. Sky has seen increasing competition. But in terms of some of the UK bigger sports, football, cricket, F1 etc. it actually seems to have increased its foothold. Whilst competitors like BT Sports and Amazon have chipped away, the sports broadcasting landscape has become so fractured that its not like any one entity can hold anything resembling a monopoly anymore. I actually think Hearn has become increasingly irrelevant in the domestic UK boxing scene, I also think buzz for his biggest heavyweights, Whyte and Joshua has died. I hardly see anyone talking about them with any excitement. Fury and Wilder seem to have completely taken over the public psyche when it comes to heavyweights. There are just too few competitive heavyweights fighting each other. The last good bout seen in the UK among some real contenders was almost a year ago between Joyce and Dubois.

Hearn strikes me as the type who, when bloviating, is doing so to mask his own vulnerability. His most watched interviews are all about the drama between Wilder and Fury...I have barely seen anyone even talk about Joshua and Usyk. Despite it being Joshua best matchup in 4+ years.

Whyte vs Povetkin wasn’t a major event so what does that have to do with 2 of the the top 3 current guys bleeding money and not selling tickets for their promotions ?


How has Fury and Wilder taking over the boxing scene being inactive and with a lot of lackluster in their own fight build up ? If it wasn’t for Hearn talking about Wilder and Fury think how no one would actually pay attention to them , that’s how bad their guys are at promoting them when a rival promoter is doing a better job and he’s not even trying . Ha

[greeneye99]

I have no agenda as I’m not a fan of any of the three nor do I make or lose any money on who fights and who doesn’t. Hearn has nothing to do with fury or wilder yet he can’t keep their names out of his mouth. So I made the assumption that it’s likely because his guy has been on the outside looking in and has been stuck fighting the pulevs of the world and getting pummeled by Ruiz. Now if that opinion hit a nerve seeing as you’re likely an enormous Aj fan, I really couldn’t care less.

You keep saying you're Not a groupie fan of any boxer
Looking at most of your previous BS post they favour Wilder over AJ and Fury
Never anything critical of Deontay Wilder that because I guess You are a Wilder Fanboy
Lololololol

[Monty Fisto]

What kind of sentence is that?

Fucking terrible isn't it?

All they had to do was crop Hearn's actual sentence: "This was going to do very, very poor pay-per-view numbers" and it would have been grammatically correct. Or alternatively, just know how to conjugate verbs in the English language correctly.

[Monty Fisto]

I was interested in watching this fight -- and still am -- but it does seem as if not many others were enthused, beyond the Wilder fan club. I suppose it is a competitive landscape right now in terms of all sporting events now now springing back to full-capacity and it is entirely possible that everyone involved was quietly happy with the covid delay, with the exception of Wilder (maybe even him too, who knows).

It is frustrating that the WBC belt has been tied up this way. February 2020 to October 2021 (at the earliest) without a single fight.

[FLY TY]

But who’s talking about money generated? The whole argument is about the number of PPV buys in the UK specifically - where do US numbers come into this? Whyte didn’t even fight in the US and not against the biggest HW there so this wouldn’t even make sense.

Pay-per-view is what it says, people are paying to view you. If 100 people pay $5 to view you, and I get 50 to pay $30 to see me, who's more successful?

It's pretty simple, actually.

[Jab jab boom]

You keep saying you're Not a groupie fan of any boxer
Looking at most of your previous BS post they favour Wilder over AJ and Fury
Never anything critical of Deontay Wilder that because I guess You are a Wilder Fanboy
Lololololol

yeah you’re making shet up. I’ve called wilder a clown on here multiple times for his lame excuses and pick fury to beat his ass agin. Try again cornball.