Is Caleb Plant embarrassed about his situation?

[Curt Henning]

like i said earlier...some of you have a broke person menality.....youd just jump at the highest figure as soon as possible even if had consequences

plant, if hes smart, already likely has a nice home that is paid for...and enough money to live off for awhile.....but the reality is whats best for him is to earn as much as possible while he can....and hes about 30 years old....

if he goes out and gets beat 8-4, or wider, or gets knocked out by canelo his career and intrigue is essentially over...i dont literally mean he wont ever get another fight...or he couldnt ever be a meaningful fight again...i dont mean hell retire.....but the caleb plant that exists today will no longer exist.........instead if he cant prolong this for another 2-3 fights and earn some good money for those fights....and continue to talk canelo and build towards it...he can increase his stance...and the fight will be worth more then.....

its a calculated risk yes....but hes willing to take it....haymon is pretty good at what he does.....i think plant would rather take that loss later than sooner ....if he were 23-25 he might feel differently.....but hes not exactly "young" in a sport/athlete sense....

[Curt Henning]

I think Haymon wants to hang on to the belt. So they'll basically pay Plant to keep it hostage fighting nobodies. Ultimately he makes the same money as he would fighting Canelo but it takes him longer and more fights to do it.

Plus he gets to call himself a 'World' champion.

If i had my way he'd get booed out of the building anytime he fights. It's a blatant, cynical duck if he doesn't fight Canelo and the whole boxing world should object to it. Plant should be ridiculed for not doing the fight.

and then he likely still can get that canelo fight on top of that!

again...you have to spare me with the "haymon wants to hang on to the belt for himself"...haymon doesnt act on his own interests without making it up to the fighter........like ive said when wilder turned down that DAZN deal haymon had to go out and get wilder 20 mil(or around there) per fight....thats the only way he could convince wilder to walk away.....or else its terrible business for haymon and everyone notices and nobody wants to work with him anymore "man did you see haymon had wilder walk away from the DAZN deal and then was only getting him 3 mil a fight...man i need a new advisor i gotta get away from him"=is what youd be hearing.....but you dont hear or see people leaving or wanting to

when DAZN/hearn came with a great deal for danny jacobs haymon DID NOT stand in his way...haymon is still dannys advisor........haymon doesnt turn down deals for his own personal gain at the expense of the fighter....if haymon told plant "were turning down this canelo fight" best believe he said "I will get it for you later if you keep that belt...believe that"....and he will deliver if thats what he promised

you dont have guys turn down lifetime opportunities just because you say so or want them to....it doesnt quite work like that....stuff like that will have haymons fighters leaving in mass exodus......but they never leave! at all! because he delivers

some of you cant think logically...the thought of floyd/haymon just irritates the living sht out of you and you cant see things clearly.....

[siablo14]

like i said earlier...some of you have a broke person menality.....youd just jump at the highest figure as soon as possible even if had consequences

plant, if hes smart, already likely has a nice home that is paid for...and enough money to live off for awhile.....but the reality is whats best for him is to earn as much as possible while he can....and hes about 30 years old....

if he goes out and gets beat 8-4, or wider, or gets knocked out by canelo his career and intrigue is essentially over...i dont literally mean he wont ever get another fight...or he couldnt ever be a meaningful fight again...i dont mean hell retire.....but the caleb plant that exists today will no longer exist.........instead if he cant prolong this for another 2-3 fights and earn some good money for those fights....and continue to talk canelo and build towards it...he can increase his stance...and the fight will be worth more then.....

its a calculated risk yes....but hes willing to take it....haymon is pretty good at what he does.....i think plant would rather take that loss later than sooner ....if he were 23-25 he might feel differently.....but hes not exactly "young" in a sport/athlete sense....

That's good for Plant but why are you cool with that?

You don't want the top fighters to face each other?

[Curt Henning]

Boxing fan first. The best should be fighting the best. Plant ran off his mouth but doesn't want to attempt to get the top spot. Keep supporting mediocrity.

Shame on you!

you guys keep living in the "im a boxing fan first...im so cool...i love the sport so much" world...ill stay here in reality where that sht doesnt matter to the fighters and promoters! you know the ones who make the fights and fight in them! lol....

[DaNeutral.]

how do you know they arent looking to cross paths with him? maybe they just dont want it right now? is that possible? i think that it is.....

But they said they did, right now. I think it is becoming very clear very quickly that they don't, but they said they did. They were talking up a fight Next, not next year, the next fight. You keep skirting around that fact.

[siablo14]

you guys keep living in the "im a boxing fan first...im so cool...i love the sport so much" world...ill stay here in reality where that sht doesnt matter to the fighters and promoters! you know the ones who make the fights and fight in them! lol....

Red - Again. That's cool for the fighter and promoters. Are you cool with that kind of mediocre path?

[Curt Henning]

But they said they did, right now. I think it is becoming very clear very quickly that they don't, but they said they did. They were talking up a fight Next, not next year, the next fight. You keep skirting around that fact.

bob arum kept saying they were eyeing shawn porter "next" leading up to the bud/mean machine fight....then 2 weeks after it bud was asked about porter on cam and said "hes not on our radar"......theyre going to talk about canelo to build up interest and keep people interested in plant in the mean time.........thats part of the boxing business....guys do it all the time......pac was a very good fighter and delivered some great fights/incredible moments...i went to two of them against hatton and cotto.....but part of what made pac so big was that his name was always tethered to floyds and he was the guy that was going to take him out.....it took his interest to another level......people are amped about bud/spence and have been for awhile now........its just plant playing the game most of these guys play....talk about it....but prolong it till youre ready and have maximized your earning potential before you risk it all

[Curt Henning]

Red - Again. That's cool for the fighter and promoters. Are you cool with that kind of mediocre path?

you dont get it....youre thick skulled.......no im not "cool" with it....in my perfect scenario it wouldnt happen....but im realistic and i realize what i want doesnt matter.......we will never get the fights we want when we want them.....its been that way for a long time now....its still that way...and its not going to change any time soon......you havent figured that out yet? do you think some complaining on a boxing forum is going to change it? nope i can assure you it wont......im not cool with it...i just accept it as part of the game now......youll prob give me some nonsense about "change" and how if we band together or something we can make a positive change....and ill just laugh.....we dont matter to them....if you drop out of watching boxing tomorrow, which you wont, it wont stop them

[siablo14]

you dont get it....youre thick skulled.......no im not "cool" with it....in my perfect scenario it wouldnt happen....but im realistic and i realize what i want doesnt matter.......we will never get the fights we want when we want them.....its been that way for a long time now....its still that way...and its not going to change any time soon......you havent figured that out yet? do you think some complaining on a boxing forum is going to change it? nope i can assure you it wont......im not cool with it...i just accept it as part of the game now......youll prob give me some nonsense about "change" and how if we band together or something we can make a positive change....and ill just laugh.....we dont matter to them....if you drop out of watching boxing tomorrow, which you wont, it wont stop them

Red - Okay. Period! You have some class, after all.

[ShoulderRoll]

because keeping your name tethered to canelo is good for you.....especially if you do want to fight him at a later time......the same way canelo was on floyd undercards and the rumors were circulating heavily that they were planning on matching him with floyd in the near future........keep building up interest in plant/canelo while youre biding time....its really simple....so im amazed you simpletons cant understand it

You seem to get more joy out of these marinating and name dropping games that PBC plays than you do out of seeing good fights.

Are you a boxing fan or a fan of Al Haymon's wallet?