Is Caleb Plant embarrassed about his situation?

[Curt Henning]

Red - Okay. Period! You have some class, after all.

always have and always do ....

i just accept the state of things...we can shout how were boxing fans first and all that to the high heavens....its not going to change the way these guys operate......i live in the US but im under no illusion that i live in a democracy.....once you are able to see things through a proper lense it makes sense and you can see why these guys do certain things....i cant live like some of you guys where its "im a boxing fan!!! look at me im such a boxing fan i dont care about their money or the business side of boxing"....its just not the life for me.....the money matters to the parties involved.....and it influences how they operate....and you would like a situation to unfold may be different from you would handle it if you were actually involved.....some of you are only able to think from your perspective

lets face it...no matter how discouraged you and i may get with how things happen in this sport...neither of us are walking away from it

[Curt Henning]

You seem to get more joy out of these marinating and name dropping games that PBC plays than you do out of seeing good fights.

Are you a boxing fan or a fan of Al Haymon's wallet?

**** man...i wish i was getting paid by haymon or working for him.....because all of the people that do seem to enjoy it.....

read my last 5 or 6 posts...i think ive explained myself pretty well in them....enjoy.....theres no joy in it for me.....i just see things from a different perspective other than my own......you seem disgruntled....but are you going to walk away from following the sport or boycott it? i didnt think so...and neither am i.....even though i dont think its perfect and has plenty of *****

[siablo14]

always have and always do ....

i just accept the state of things...we can shout how were boxing fans first and all that to the high heavens....its not going to change the way these guys operate......i live in the US but im under no illusion that i live in a democracy.....once you are able to see things through a proper lense it makes sense and you can see why these guys do certain things....i cant live like some of you guys where its "im a boxing fan!!! look at me im such a boxing fan i dont care about their money or the business side of boxing"....its just not the life for me.....the money matters to the parties involved.....and it influences how they operate....and you would like a situation to unfold may be different from you would handle it if you were actually involved.....some of you are only able to think from your perspective

lets face it...no matter how discouraged you and i may get with how things happen in this sport...neither of us are walking away from it

Just call out bullsheet when you see it. Plant on that bullsheet! Plant ran his mouth but when he got the chance, he made like a weasel and slid away.

[Curt Henning]

Just call out bullsheet when you see it. Plant on that bullsheet! Plant ran his mouth but when he got the chance, he made like a weasel and slid away.

most of these guys are on some bullsheet at one point or another.....pretty much everyone runs a little of it....its par for the course.......im not so sure plant ran away as much as some covinced him that there was more money for him overall if he was patient and waited.....but im not certain thats what happened...just speculation........there is a difference....some of these guys have faith in their advisors/managers and will act on their advice because they trust them......like i said it may seem dumb or silly to someone to us but we dont have a stake in it and its not our life.....we arent standing in their shoes and they arent standing in ours

[icha]

if dazn offers more money than pbc and plant rejects then is a shamefull duck, no way around that...
not sure pbc can match dazn but if they offer more canelo should also take it, no strings attached of course...

[Thuglife Nelo]

most of these guys are on some bullsheet at one point or another.....pretty much everyone runs a little of it....its par for the course.......im not so sure plant ran away as much as some covinced him that there was more money for him overall if he was patient and waited.....but im not certain thats what happened...just speculation........there is a difference....some of these guys have faith in their advisors/managers and will act on their advice because they trust them......like i said it may seem dumb or silly to someone to us but we dont have a stake in it and its not our life.....we arent standing in their shoes and they arent standing in ours

You’ve been having a scrimmage with many here… looks like you can’t handle the easy criticism from what fans see how the PBC operates… you don’t find that funny?

if im understanding correctly, you consistently say that Plant would lose to Canelo anyways and his stock drops so he shouldn’t fight Canelo because PBC fighters are happy? That’s basically what you’ve been saying…

Caleb Plant has for the last 2 years said this, specifically:

1.) “I want all the belts.”
2.) “My dream is to be Undisputed.”
3.) “If me and Canelo fight, I see my hand raised…”

What happened was that Plant had no idea that Canelo would collect the remaining belt in such a fast time from an opposing platform. That’s the epitome of shook. It’s proof that Plant was just clout chasing Canelo’s name. I’m sure he wanted to be Undisputed, but he was hoping for a different alignment of stars from other fighters. It’s crazy how some fighters fear Canelo….

[FLY TY]

Why would you be against unifying all the belts? That creates only one champion in the weight class which is what we all want.

One man that everyone has to beat if they want to be the man.

That makes there be LESS corruption and fake champs.

That's a nice dream. How many fighters unify the whole division, and stay to defend the belts nowadays?

If its not a heavyweight, it's not happening.

Even Jermall Charlo, who's comfortable at 154, said he drop a belt or 2 if Spence moves up.

[ShoulderRoll]

That's a nice dream. How many fighters unify the whole division, and stay to defend the belts nowadays?

If its not a heavyweight, it's not happening.

Even Jermall Charlo, who's comfortable at 154, said he drop a belt or 2 if Spence moves up.

Not many fighters unify the whole division.

But when they do that creates what we want, only 1 champion in the weight class. Which should be encouraged and applauded.

The only bad thing is that fighters then seem to leave the division and the belts are splintered again. I'm sure the promoters are behind this, they benefit from having a bunch of bullshˇt champions running around.

If we could get a unified heavyweight champion that would be perfect, though, because there are no other weight classes to move to (although the WBC is doing their best to come up with some.)

[FLY TY]

Not many fighters unify the whole division.

But when they do that creates what we want, only 1 champion in the weight class. Which should be encouraged and applauded.

The only bad thing is that fighters then seem to leave the division and the belts are splintered again. I'm sure the promoters are behind this, they benefit from having a bunch of bullshˇt champions running around.

If we could get a unified heavyweight champion that would be perfect, though, because there are no other weight classes to move to (although the WBC is doing their best to come up with some.)

Agree with everything you said here.

[GucciGod]

idiotic take...show me a promoter/manager who has a 100 percent positive track record of everything working out in his fighters favor....you cant and wont

promoters/managers have to take calculated risks at times....it didnt work out well for kownacki....thats just how it goes...thats the business....

haymon has alot of figthers...and alot of "name brand" fighters to find fights and dates and money for.....more than any other guy in the business.....he as an extensive roster of guys .....and trust this...kownacki was not one of his top level priorities anyways...hes not a wilder, tank, spence etc.....he was a guy he was grooming to be an opponent for someone.....he was like an andy ruiz

Bro, you are getting way to defensive over people that couldn’t care less about you, if you were to be shot today, do you think Al gonna be sending money to the family to pay for your funeral?

you come across like a groupie, I actually mean that with as much respect as possible. Think before typing my guy.