Mayweather vs Marquez: It isn't the mismatch you think it is.

[-GR -]

Floyd weight on fight nights:
Judah-146
Baldomir-149
DLH-148

Him being this giant in size is a myth perpetrated by his haters. Pac was coming in at 145 vs JMM 2 and that fight was at 130! Hatton comes in in the 150s at JWW, and Pac just came in 148 on fight night. This fight isnt like JMM fighting a true WW in Cotto or Clottey

[BattlingNelson]

You're a really good poster until you talk about Floyd then you get really biased

Answer me this Bat, do you honestly think Cotto and Floyd are the same size, P4P Floyd would crush Cotto with ease, his weight advantage makes it mildly interesting

I'll say this: If Floyd isn't a WW he shouldn't fight at the WW limit. Since that's what he's been doing for the past 4 years he's a full blown welter to me. Hell Floyd wouldn't even go down to 143 for JMM. Surely that's not an indication of Floyd being anything less than a welter does it?

[fightfan_79]

Mayweather is a Jr WW campaigning at WW.

PEOPLE! Don't be blinded, I mean, since when do WWs come into the ring weighing 146-148? They don't, Jr WWs do, infact some blow up to the 150s. Mayweather isn't THAT big, he weighed in at 150 against DLH for a Jr MW fight and then came into the ring weighing 148. I'm surprised some would LOVE to pin Mayweather against Margarito or Paul Williams but have a problem with Mayweather facing Marquez. People forget why Mayweather moved up to 147 in the first place, he couldn't land fights against Cotto, Hatton or Kosta Tszyu so he opt for SSM/ DLH at 147. He had no luck in getting Mosely so he went for DLH. As he himself said, "We tried to make the fight against DLH at 147 but that wasn't gonna happen, so we decided to face Oscar at 154". Also remember that even at 135, after defeating Ndou, Larry Merchant asked, " Why not face Casamyor or Freitas" Floyd answered, "They don't want to fight me Larry", Larry said "You know that isn't true, we both know its money", Floyd then said "Well I gotta get the big money". Although he was looking for bigger and better things, he never showed any sign of struggling to make 135. Funny how Mayweather vs Casamayor was a possible match up, Marquez vs Casamayor went down, end of the fucking world when Marquez steps in the ring with Mayweather. So when you read all this, did you get the impression that Mayweather moved up in weight because he could no longer make it? Didn't think so.

Why is Mayweather held to this limitless standard?

What differentiates Mayweather from Marquez? Mayweather faced DLH at 154, DLH came into the ring weighing close to SMW but none of us here argued, Baldomir also came into the ring weighing 166 and we didn't cry mismatch. Marquez never faced that kind of adversity. Now we have two guys, where the size difference is probably gonna be 4-5 lbs or maybe less and people are bitching. Should we all baby Marquez because he isn't good enough to deal with a slight weight disadvantage? Ofcourse not, **** don't even sound right. Mayweather's level of invincibility isn't created by the fans or the nuthuggers, it's created by YOU, the haters. The sad part is, most of you don't even know it.

Comparing SRL vs Duran to Mayweather vs Marquez.

I bring this up because few, including Mayweather brought up this comparison. Mayweather vs Marquez is taking place at a catch weight of 144, SRL vs Duran took place at 147. Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff, SRL was active at the time. SRL was a HUGE WW, Mayweather isn't. So comparing Marquez to Duran, you can clearly see that Duran didn't have this luxury when facing Leonard. So instead of standing behind Marquez, hoping that he'd capatilize and take advantage of this great opportunity, you cry mismatch, how sad really.

To finish it off. Sorry for being repetitive.

Wake up and smell the coffee, the size difference between the two is gonna be 4-5 lbs, Marquez is 2nd on the P4P list and Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff...MY GOD!, doesn't that open up your mind?! isn't that mind blowing? Or are people not willing to accept that Marquez will probably lose to the better man or instead falsely believe that 4-5 lbs made the difference I don't have a problem with people who don't find this fight appealing, that's completely understandable but I do have a problem with people making this the mismatch that it isn't. I always tell people, had Marquez and Pacquiao faced off for a 3rd fight, what would Pacquiao come into the ring weighing? 148...something Mayweather has never weghed more then. Now where is the mismatch in that?

OK...here are some other issues:

Youth - Advantage Floyd
Size - Advantage Floyd
Strength - Advantage Floyd
Speed - Advantage Floyd
Conditioning - Advantage Floyd
Ring Generalship - Advantage Floyd
Defense - Advantage Floyd
Offensive Ability - Advantage Floyd
Counter Punching - Advantage Floyd

Did I miss anything? If that isn't a mis-match....I don't know what is.

[larry x]

great post...to bad this forum is filled with floyd haters who wont EVER give floyd credit

[larry x]

OK...here are some other issues:

Youth - Advantage Floyd
Size - Advantage Floyd
Strength - Advantage Floyd
Speed - Advantage Floyd
Conditioning - Advantage Floyd
Ring Generalship - Advantage Floyd
Defense - Advantage Floyd
Offensive Ability - Advantage Floyd
Counter Punching - Advantage Floyd

Did I miss anything? If that isn't a mis-match....I don't know what is.

lol..in other words floyd should be punished for being to good..cause jmm is the same guy that arguably beat your boy pacman twice..but i bet you think pacman can beat floyd

[RRICAN]

floyd is good but he will be koed sept 19th, imo he is taking jmm too light he is no tune-up

[The Gambler1981]

I thought boxing had WEIGHT-divisions........ Both fought at 147 last time I looked.

How does what someone weighs more then 24 hours before a fight display they are exactly the same size? Take a narrow view if you want but jsut because 2 dudes fight in the same class does not mean they are anywhere near the same size, I am cool with it though and do not really care that much about classes I care about quality guys fighting, JMM and Floyd are quality guys JMM earned his right to call out Mayweather he got his call answered, if JMM gets whipped file that under the be careful what you wish for category~.

[Young Mike]

Floyd fighting at WW is the equivalent of Cotto fighting at 160

Floyd moves up in division, but he doesn't make the right weight because he doesn't want to.

The fight is a mismatch because Marquez is older has never been very quick in the ring and it won't improve moving up in weight especially now that he's older. Floyd is taller so making the weight is easier for him than Marquez, plus Floyd weigh-in around 149 in his bout with De La Hoya contrary to Marquez who had only one fight at 135 and is now moving up 12 more pounds.

[-GR -]

Floyd moves up in division, but he doesn't make the right weight because he doesn't want to.

The fight is a mismatch because Marquez is older has never been very quick in the ring and it won't improve moving up in weight especially now that he's older. Floyd is taller so making the weight is easier for him than Marquez, plus Floyd weigh-in around 149 in his bout with De La Hoya contrary to Marquez who had only one fight at 135 and is now moving up 12 more pounds.

The fight is at 144

[MANGLER]

Listen. WWs need to fight WWs.

My ****** Bully preachin the gospel of Mang. **** is real talk. Bull**** fight. I hope JMM can pull it off tho. War Dinamita!