Mayweather vs Marquez: It isn't the mismatch you think it is.

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  • flipbjefrox
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    #11
    boring fights. can you tell me who's gonna press the action? jmm wont do it? floyd wont do it? we're just gonna see a lot of posing

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    • Sin City
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      #12
      Originally posted by street bully
      Listen. WWs need to fight WWs.
      Agreed. Right about now.. Marquez should've been fighting Pacquiao and Cotto should've been fighting Mayweather.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sin City
        I read it all..
        Marquez was considered small for 130. Mayweather is accustomed to the welterweight limit, Marquez has NEVER had a fight above 135.
        You also forget to add his age into the equation, it's a lot harder for an old fighter to make that kind of a jump then someone who is in their absolute prime.
        You make a great point but B-Hop and Duran moved up well, even at old age. Its takes a special fighter to do that. From watching 24/7 JMM looked alot better then expected, still doesn't mean he'll look good in the ring. Listen, I'm not saying Mayweather isn't bigger because he clearly is, I don't buy that, that will be the deciding factor in this fight.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #14
          I stopped reading that longass threadstart after the headline. So Floyd is a jr. welterweight? Then why not fight JMM there? That's the division between LW and WW. Hell Floyd wouldn't even fight at 143.

          Thread failed right THERE.

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          • cmartez
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            #15
            Originally posted by El Dominicano.
            Mayweather is a Jr WW campaigning at WW.

            PEOPLE! Don't be blinded, I mean, since when do WWs come into the ring weighing 146-148? They don't, Jr WWs do, infact some blow up to the 150s. Mayweather isn't THAT big, he weighed in at 150 against DLH for a Jr MW fight and then came into the ring weighing 148. I'm surprised some would LOVE to pin Mayweather against Margarito or Paul Williams but have a problem with Mayweather facing Marquez. People forget why Mayweather moved up to 147 in the first place, he couldn't land fights against Cotto, Hatton or Kosta Tszyu so he opt for SSM/ DLH at 147. He had no luck in getting Mosely so he went for DLH. As he himself said, "We tried to make the fight against DLH at 147 but that wasn't gonna happen, so we decided to face Oscar at 154". Also remember that even at 135, after defeating Ndou, Larry Merchant asked, " Why not face Casamyor or Freitas" Floyd answered, "They don't want to fight me Larry", Larry said "You know that isn't true, we both know its money", Floyd then said "Well I gotta get the big money". Although he was looking for bigger and better things, he never showed any sign of struggling to make 135. Funny how Mayweather vs Casamayor was a possible match up, Marquez vs Casamayor went down, end of the fucking world when Marquez steps in the ring with Mayweather. So when you read all this, did you get the impression that Mayweather moved up in weight because he could no longer make it? Didn't think so.

            Why is Mayweather held to this limitless standard?

            What differentiates Mayweather from Marquez? Mayweather faced DLH at 154, DLH came into the ring weighing close to SMW but none of us here argued, Baldomir also came into the ring weighing 166 and we didn't cry mismatch. Marquez never faced that kind of adversity. Now we have two guys, where the size difference is probably gonna be 4-5 lbs or maybe less and people are bitching. Should we all baby Marquez because he isn't good enough to deal with a slight weight disadvantage? Ofcourse not, **** don't even sound right. Mayweather's level of invincibility isn't created by the fans or the nuthuggers, it's created by YOU, the haters. The sad part is, most of you don't even know it.

            Comparing SRL vs Duran to Mayweather vs Marquez.

            I bring this up because few, including Mayweather brought up this comparison. Mayweather vs Marquez is taking place at a catch weight of 144, SRL vs Duran took place at 147. Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff, SRL was active at the time. SRL was a HUGE WW, Mayweather isn't. So comparing Marquez to Duran, you can clearly see that Duran didn't have this luxury when facing Leonard. So instead of standing behind Marquez, hoping that he'd capatilize and take advantage of this great opportunity, you cry mismatch, how sad really.

            To finish it off. Sorry for being repetitive.

            Wake up and smell the coffee, the size difference between the two is gonna be 4-5 lbs, Marquez is 2nd on the P4P list and Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff...MY GOD!, doesn't that open up your mind?! isn't that mind blowing? Or are people not willing to accept that Marquez will probably lose to the better man or instead falsely believe that 4-5 lbs made the difference I don't have a problem with people who don't find this fight appealing, that's completely understandable but I do have a problem with people making this the mismatch that it isn't. I always tell people, had Marquez and Pacquiao faced off for a 3rd fight, what would Pacquiao come into the ring weighing? 148...something Mayweather has never weghed more then. Now where is the mismatch in that?
            Finally, some fatcs on whats really going on! Unfortunatley there will still be some haters that will continue to be blind and make pointless comments.
            Perfect analysis though!

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #16
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              I stopped reading that longass threadstart after the headline. So Floyd is a jr. welterweight? Then why not fight JMM there? That's the division between LW and WW. Hell Floyd wouldn't even fight at 143.

              Thread failed right THERE.
              Can you name me a WW that comes into the ring weighing 146-148?

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #17
                Originally posted by El Dominicano.
                Can you name me a WW that comes into the ring weighing 146-148?
                Look Wi th all due respect your missing the point. It's not what they will weigh at but what weight they are the most comfortable at. If Floyd isn't that far off then why would he insist on pushing the weight to the 143 limit?

                Floyd is NATURALLY bigger and stronger than JMM, there's no arguing that. He's also younger than JMM and in his prime, I don't think that JMM is PHYSICALLY in his prime anymore but he is there mentally.

                This is the reason Mayweather is a favorite because people don't know if JMM will be able to handle the strength and speed of Mayweather.

                Even Nacho said in the first 24/7 "He's stronger than you, bigger and faster", they know this, it's no excuse it's the truth. That is the MAIN reason Mayweather will win this fight because of that advantage.

                The same reason that most people would pick a prime DLH to beat Mayweather.

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                • prtyboybladeage
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by El Dominicano.
                  Can you name me a WW that comes into the ring weighing 146-148?
                  Shane Mosley? Maybe?

                  Anyway, good original post! But the hating will never stop.

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                  • Sin City
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by El Dominicano.
                    You make a great point but B-Hop and Duran moved up well, even at old age. Its takes a special fighter to do that. From watching 24/7 JMM looked alot better then expected, still doesn't mean he'll look good in the ring. Listen, I'm not saying Mayweather isn't bigger because he clearly is, I don't buy that, that will be the deciding factor in this fight.
                    Duran had enormous power and a granite chin.
                    Marquez's chin is no wher near as solid as Durans.
                    Hopkins has a hard ass noggin as well.
                    & Yes, Marquez looks good.. training. Who knows how good he'll look
                    actually fighting.
                    & as Nelson said, If Floyd is a Jr. Welterweight.. why not fight at that weight class
                    to make things at least a little bit more even?
                    He didn't fight a Jr. Welterweight because he can no longer make the limit.

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                      Look Wi th all due respect your missing the point. It's not what they will weigh at but what weight they are the most comfortable at. If Floyd isn't that far off then why would he insist on pushing the weight to the 143 limit?

                      Floyd is NATURALLY bigger and stronger than JMM, there's no arguing that. He's also younger than JMM and in his prime, I don't think that JMM is PHYSICALLY in his prime anymore but he is there mentally.

                      This is the reason Mayweather is a favorite because people don't know if JMM will be able to handle the strength and speed of Mayweather.

                      Even Nacho said in the first 24/7 "He's stronger than you, bigger and faster", they know this, it's no excuse it's the truth. That is the MAIN reason Mayweather will win this fight because of that advantage.

                      The same reason that most people would pick a prime DLH to beat Mayweather.
                      Wasn't Pacquiao also stronger, younger, faster then Marquez?

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