Mayweather vs Marquez: It isn't the mismatch you think it is.

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  • RodBarker
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    #71
    Originally posted by Sin City
    Agreed. Right about now.. Marquez should've been fighting Pacquiao and Cotto should've been fighting Mayweather.
    You and your mate Street Bully are dumb asses , cant you ***en read the weights , for *** sake , they are what they are in the ring and all you parrots going on about is a dried out weight to make a low weight 30 hrs before the fight only to go back to their real weight and fight , ya dumb pricks need to realize the weight they actually fight at is their TRUE weight , their TRUE size ,,,, your not boxing people you are children in a school yard with a my guy is the best attitude , the guy wrote a very concise post pointing out the real weight differences here and you ***ing imbeciles come out and say WW should fight WW , geeeezus !!

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    • fightfan_79
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      #72
      Originally posted by larrysmith
      lol..in other words floyd should be punished for being to good..cause jmm is the same guy that arguably beat your boy pacman twice..but i bet you think pacman can beat floyd
      C'mon Larry...you should know me better than that...I calls em how I see em...and no...Floyd would outclass Manny if they ever fought...BUT...that does not = to Manny being a hypejob....that just means that Floyd IS ON ANOTHER LEVEL talentwise....and he is finally fighting the best out there to offer....

      And yes...Floyd should be criticzed for taking on Marquez...just because Marquez is #2 on the p4p list, KHTFO...then fights Cotto, who is #8 on the list, and UDs Cotto....does that mean the Marquez win is more fullfilling and should impress the fans more than the Cotto win? NO...because Cotto is a fighter in Floyd's division...WW...Cotto isn't even a real champ (WBO)....he just won the title, against I think Jennings, because the title was vacated...

      Floyd should be fighting WWs period...not blown up LWs....not high ranking p4p fighters....unless of course they are within a reasonable weight. Floyd is campaigning in what Division again? If Floyd does not KO Marquez...this fight does nothing for Floyd...IMHO.

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      • Doctor_Tenma
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        #73
        Originally posted by RodBarker
        You and your mate Street Bully are dumb asses , cant you ***en read the weights , for *** sake , they are what they are in the ring and all you parrots going on about is a dried out weight to make a low weight 30 hrs before the fight only to go back to their real weight and fight , ya dumb pricks need to realize the weight they actually fight at is their TRUE weight , their TRUE size ,,,, your not boxing people you are children in a school yard with a my guy is the best attitude , the guy wrote a very concise post pointing out the real weight differences here and you ***ing imbeciles come out and say WW should fight WW , geeeezus !!
        Exactly, I'm done dealing with idiots.

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        • Vasyl’s dad
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          #74
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          i always called it how i see it.

          pbf is still an ATG and beats everyone 147 lbs and below, but he has to actually fight the fight to get the credit.
          Well, you've changed just a bit from your max boxing days.

          At one point, you didn't think he had to fight to get credit, it was automatically given.


          But its good to see you come around.



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          • MANGLER
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            #75
            Originally posted by Tom Flores
            Well, you've changed just a bit from your max boxing days.

            At one point, you didn't think he had to fight to get credit, it was automatically given.


            But its good to see you come around.



            Cosign. He used to be the same way on here too EGN. He's come a long ****in way homey. Pull brings the unbiased truth these days. Respect.

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            • El Angel
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              #76
              Floyd's a great fighter, but so is JMM IMO. I think at the very least, he gives Floyd a tough night.

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              • Shadow boxer 3
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                #77
                Originally posted by flipbjefrox
                boring fights. can you tell me who's gonna press the action? jmm wont do it? floyd wont do it? we're just gonna see a lot of posing
                u people act like floyd has never been the aggresser. whenever his opponets dont come to him he comes to them. some examples : corley, mitchell, gatti, judah etc.....
                u people are judging his whole career on his last 3 fights

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                • DLT
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by El Dominicano.
                  I still don't got **** on DLT
                  Im about to outdo you right now. Im getting ready to write a 9 page essay : )

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Im about to outdo you right now. Im getting ready to write a 9 page essay : )
                    Go for it

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                    • Bhopreign
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by El Dominicano.
                      Mayweather is a Jr WW campaigning at WW.

                      PEOPLE! Don't be blinded, I mean, since when do WWs come into the ring weighing 146-148? They don't, Jr WWs do, infact some blow up to the 150s. Mayweather isn't THAT big, he weighed in at 150 against DLH for a Jr MW fight and then came into the ring weighing 148. I'm surprised some would LOVE to pin Mayweather against Margarito or Paul Williams but have a problem with Mayweather facing Marquez. People forget why Mayweather moved up to 147 in the first place, he couldn't land fights against Cotto, Hatton or Kosta Tszyu so he opt for SSM/ DLH at 147. He had no luck in getting Mosely so he went for DLH. As he himself said, "We tried to make the fight against DLH at 147 but that wasn't gonna happen, so we decided to face Oscar at 154". Also remember that even at 135, after defeating Ndou, Larry Merchant asked, " Why not face Casamyor or Freitas" Floyd answered, "They don't want to fight me Larry", Larry said "You know that isn't true, we both know its money", Floyd then said "Well I gotta get the big money". Although he was looking for bigger and better things, he never showed any sign of struggling to make 135. Funny how Mayweather vs Casamayor was a possible match up, Marquez vs Casamayor went down, end of the fucking world when Marquez steps in the ring with Mayweather. So when you read all this, did you get the impression that Mayweather moved up in weight because he could no longer make it? Didn't think so.

                      Why is Mayweather held to this limitless standard?

                      What differentiates Mayweather from Marquez? Mayweather faced DLH at 154, DLH came into the ring weighing close to SMW but none of us here argued, Baldomir also came into the ring weighing 166 and we didn't cry mismatch. Marquez never faced that kind of adversity. Now we have two guys, where the size difference is probably gonna be 4-5 lbs or maybe less and people are bitching. Should we all baby Marquez because he isn't good enough to deal with a slight weight disadvantage? Ofcourse not, **** don't even sound right. Mayweather's level of invincibility isn't created by the fans or the nuthuggers, it's created by YOU, the haters. The sad part is, most of you don't even know it.

                      Comparing SRL vs Duran to Mayweather vs Marquez.

                      I bring this up because few, including Mayweather brought up this comparison. Mayweather vs Marquez is taking place at a catch weight of 144, SRL vs Duran took place at 147. Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff, SRL was active at the time. SRL was a HUGE WW, Mayweather isn't. So comparing Marquez to Duran, you can clearly see that Duran didn't have this luxury when facing Leonard. So instead of standing behind Marquez, hoping that he'd capatilize and take advantage of this great opportunity, you cry mismatch, how sad really.

                      To finish it off. Sorry for being repetitive.

                      Wake up and smell the coffee, the size difference between the two is gonna be 4-5 lbs, Marquez is 2nd on the P4P list and Mayweather is coming off a 2 year layoff...MY GOD!, doesn't that open up your mind?! isn't that mind blowing? Or are people not willing to accept that Marquez will probably lose to the better man or instead falsely believe that 4-5 lbs made the difference I don't have a problem with people who don't find this fight appealing, that's completely understandable but I do have a problem with people making this the mismatch that it isn't. I always tell people, had Marquez and Pacquiao faced off for a 3rd fight, what would Pacquiao come into the ring weighing? 148...something Mayweather has never weghed more then. Now where is the mismatch in that?
                      Props, you made it very simple for those who dont want to admit the truth, they know this truth but will never admit it because it gives credit to the very one they dont like and thats Mayweather.

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