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  • #31
    Who allowed this man to speak? People who aren’t doing something always judge those who do. Wilder fought Fury, your last fight on that level was 2017. Do something, then talk.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post

      How did both those fights end up? Btw, Wilder fought these guys first before any other well-known boxer did. They were still hungry and actually coming to fight. You'd be a fool if you think Molina that fought wilder was the same that fought Joshua 19 months later. He clearly went to the UK to collect a check and nothing more.
      Lol how convenient. So we can scrap the Breazeale win off Wilder record cuz Joshua beat him up 1st?

      Ortiz 2 doesn't count? Stiverne 2 doesn't count?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by chepboxingking View Post

        How did both those fights end up? Btw, Wilder fought these guys first before any other well-known boxer did. They were still hungry and actually coming to fight. You'd be a fool if you think Molina that fought wilder was the same that fought Joshua 19 months later. He clearly went to the UK to collect a check and nothing more.
        I think if you compare Wilder vs Molina and Joshua vs Molina, all you can do is look at who fared better out of the two against the same fighter. Trying to mind-read what was going on in Molina's head is best left out of the equation.

        Whatever the reason behind it, Molina was negative against Joshua and had more success offensively against Wilder. He was stopped by both. The rest is speculation.

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        • #34
          That's why I want to see wilder fight other good heavyweights like ruiz, whyte,Josh as I want to know how good wilde r is. Losing to fury again don't tell us amything

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Boxing Beast View Post
            Who allowed this man to speak? People who aren’t doing something always judge those who do. Wilder fought Fury, your last fight on that level was 2017. Do something, then talk.
            2 time unified Heavyweight champion of the world. He is doing something, nobody else can claim to be that. what is it you would like him to do? Fight Fury? He tried. Fight Wilder? He tried.



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            • #36
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
              That's why I want to see wilder fight other good heavyweights like ruiz, whyte,Josh as I want to know how good wilde r is. Losing to fury again don't tell us amything
              according to ruiz he was gonna fight wilder if wilder fury 3 didnt happen

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              • #37
                Not sure Wilder will be KO'ing Fury to even make this fight but IF he does, he is more than likely to KO Joshua. Fury tried to attack Wilder, Joshua will keep running away. Because to be aggressive, you need to take a few and give a bit more. Can Joshua take a few of Wilder's shots given he couldn't take a few of Ruiz's and one of Klitchsko's? Joshua might try to win on points but he ain't no Fury to dodge all of them.

                Styles make fights...Joshua has a chance against Fury, Fury beats Wilder but Wilder beats Joshua.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Boxing Beast View Post
                  Who allowed this man to speak? People who aren’t doing something always judge those who do. Wilder fought Fury, your last fight on that level was 2017. Do something, then talk.
                  How’s he going to do something when the 2 bums stay ducking him and fighting each other?

                  And we all know Wilder wouldn’t have fought Fury if he wasn’t coming from a 3-yr hiatus and looking bad against Seferi. He had Wlad there and never bothered to fight him. Charles Martin is promoted by the same company as Wilder but he didn’t fight him. Parker was there and he didn’t fight him. Ducked Dillian Whyte. Ducked AJ multiple times.

                  He ran to Fury thinking he’s damaged and Fury would end his career.
                  Last edited by BangEM; 06-21-2021, 04:55 PM.

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                  • #39
                    I've always thought that Joshua v Wilder is the closest of the three possibilities. That's was such a huge missed opportunity.

                    Fury won't go near Joshua. That's a terrible matchup for him.

                    Fury beats Wilder 9 out of 10.

                    But Wilder v Joshua is a shootout.

                    I believe Joshua has tried to fight both. The evidence on that is pretty clear. Wilder acknowledged legitimate offers and Fury got as far as announcing he'd accepted an offer.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
                      Wilder is the king of the tomato cans.....always has been and even then he has been outboxed by then only to pull a punch out the bag........let’s not forget spilka, Washington , duhaupas lol
                      The trio outboxed Wilder and punished him for long spells. They just lacked power.

                      If they had Dubois’ power (or even Ruiz) - they would’ve ended Wilder.

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