Roberto Duran 5 Best Wins. Is he really….

[daggum]

Obviously the the bar is low for some fighters.

If Canelo was green then SRL was definitely green when Duran beat him. But I forgot different standards for certain fighters.

canelo barely beat solid fighter trout. leonard had a ko win over an all time great in benitez.

canelo had 2 top 10 wins when he fought floyd. leonard had 7.

floyd still needed a catchweight...duran did not.

not the same at all? also leonard was an olympic gold medalist. what a weird false equivalency.

[joseph5620]

Your name is TAKEOVER lmao

What are you 10yrs old?

[Mammoth]

Wtf is this thread?

[buddyr]

I think sometimes posters just honestly don’t know. Context means everything. Like with Davey Moore. He was like 11-0 or 12-0 when he fought Duran. Not really a big deal. But he had just ko’d kalule the fight before Duran, which was a monster win.

Duran was the HUGE underdog against Moore. Most thought he was like “cashing out”. Instead of the usual party and BS between fights he came in focused and ready.

I think we owe it to educate people who may not know.

We live in an era of increasing technology. He’s not from my era when you missed a fight you had to call someone from another state and trade or buy vhs tapes thru the mail if no replay was in the future. If these mfers are ignorant to all time greats and their accomplishments while posting on a BOXING message board, it’s because they want to be. With these guys, nothing matters in boxing but what they have seen in their lifetime when they started watching.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Nothing spectacular about that list at all.

You’re either trolling or DKSAB. How is 4 out of 5 of your top 5 wins being HOF’ers “nothing spectacular”?

Furthermore, if you contextualise them wins and look at the physical disadvantages Duran faced in several of them, it’s even more spectacular.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

I think you have to be careful. The Davey Moore win in retrospect looks less impressive if you just go by his record.

but given where Moore was at the time of the fight, that win is sensational. The reaction from the crowd let’s you know just how big of an upset that was.

The Buchanan and Barkley wins IMO are also much better than they are “ on paper” just looking at the records of the fighters.

Completely agree man. Great post.

[The Big Dunn]

What’s up. Big Dunn you know you’re one of my favorite posters but Moore fought Gary Guiden before he faced Duran. He faced Kalule a whole year earlier. No fighters of this generation would get credit for beating someone with 11 wins. I’m just saying it’s obvious we don’t hold all fighters to the same standards. Kalube was definitely solid but other than him and Benitez there’s not much else on Moore resume due to his career being tragically shortened.

Respect. I think you’re a solid poster.

True but that Kalule win was huge. Then he got a showcase fight against a tough but beatable guy and he did well.

That is the thing- this generation. Davey Moore’s 11-0 can’t be judged by today’s standards.

How many dudes with 10 fights are defending their world title for the 3rd time against a former world champ with 40 pro fights, 4 title defenses and his only loss to Ray Leonard?

The modern fighter with that many world title defenses under 11 fights is Loma who, despite the Teo loss, is a top 10 p4p boxer in the sport.

[_Rexy_]

I think sometimes posters just honestly don’t know. Context means everything. Like with Davey Moore. He was like 11-0 or 12-0 when he fought Duran. Not really a big deal. But he had just ko’d kalule the fight before Duran, which was a monster win.

Duran was the HUGE underdog against Moore. Most thought he was like “cashing out”. Instead of the usual party and BS between fights he came in focused and ready.

I think we owe it to educate people who may not know.

It became an obvious troll thread once he started arguing with all of the responses. These threads pop up more often than cats just wanting to learn. Hell, he's already mentioned Canelo Alvarez and HIS resume.

[_Rexy_]

We live in an era of increasing technology. He’s not from my era when you missed a fight you had to call someone from another state and trade or buy vhs tapes thru the mail if no replay was in the future. If these mfers are ignorant to all time greats and their accomplishments while posting on a BOXING message board, it’s because they want to be. With these guys, nothing matters in boxing but what they have seen in their lifetime when they started watching.

Yup! Like I've always said, theres no excuse for ignorance during the information age. You can literally find anything you want, the only excuse is laziness.

[GhostofDempsey]

Obviously the the bar is low for some fighters.

If Canelo was green then SRL was definitely green when Duran beat him. But I forgot different standards for certain fighters.

Leonard was prime. 24 years old, 27-0, champion, Olympic gold medalist. Duran already had over 70 fights, was on the beginning of the down slope, had moved up from lightweight the year prior.