Gennady Golovkin-the last great champion

[Robbie Barrett]

It's true Gennady was screwed worse than anyone in recent times. Clear win vs Canelo in the 1st fight robbing him of recognition as a generational talent, and a list of guys longer longer your arm that ducked him in and around the division.

A true beast. Major probs to Canelo for beating him narrowly in the 2nd fight though. What a top tier win, as was GGGs win over Canelo in first fight. Canrlo obviously juicing like a mutha****er too, before during and after.

The guy arguably lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. Generational talent my arse. The guy got a draw and 2 wins in 3 close fights. "Robberies though"

[Pac=Duran]

The guy arguably lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. Generational talent my arse. The guy got a draw and 2 wins in 3 close fights. "Robberies though"

Devreychenko was a draw prob but with the Jacobs fight is was fairly easy to see who won. Hint: the man on his knees at the end.

[Thuglife Nelo]

It's true Gennady was screwed worse than anyone in recent times. Clear win vs Canelo in the 1st fight robbing him of recognition as a generational talent, and a list of guys longer longer your arm that ducked him in and around the division.

A true beast. Major probs to Canelo for beating him narrowly in the 2nd fight though. What a top tier win, as was GGGs win over Canelo in first fight. Canrlo obviously juicing like a mutha****er too, before during and after.

If anybody were “juicing” were PAC and Duran. Duran late in his career because anti doping didn’t even exist and steroid use in the 80’s started to build common practice in boxing. How do you think Vinny Paz was even able to step into the ring with RJJ after such an injury? Vinny Paz looked like a WWE wrestler against RJJ. However, again, nor would a network care in the 80’s, about steroid use since both boxers would waive it off. Back then it was abused for rehabilitation as well as gains…

Canelo has been doing VADA or anti doping since Mosley because he was part of the new generation of star boxers acknowledging anti doping in boxing. Now, WADA, even has a threshold for Clenbuterol and 5.5times more acceptable amounts for what Canelo had. So if Canelo was “juicing” why stop when he could just stay under the radar 5.5times less the acceptable amount each time!? Or should Canelo be on a regimen around 4ng all the time?

now if Canelo had adverse findings and non disclosed results from his biological passport (ala inconsistencies) then it would’ve already been whistleblown. EPO or HGH or Nandrolone from guys like Fury, Miller, Pascal is what type of “juicing” compared to the acceptable Clen nowadays?

You’re not really niche fan doe, more of a casual fan since you compare PAC=Duran for guys who took challenges going up but you write some sympathetic response for GGG who said “154-168 was easy for me” bruh you’re a clown. You’re not fooling anybody. Basically hate on Canelo to hype GGg

[kushking]

Devreychenko was a draw prob but with the Jacobs fight is was fairly easy to see who won. Hint: the man on his knees at the end.

Everytime ggg fans say "it was a draw" it means ggg lost(hella ironic too considering they love to complain about the 1 actual draw ggg deserved & got.)

The guy arguably lost to Jacobs and Derevyanchenko. Generational talent my arse. The guy got a draw and 2 wins in 3 close fights. "Robberies though"

[ShoulderRoll]

The last great can crusher is more like it.

[just the facts]

Win or lose - and I agree he likely would have lost - taking the Ward fight would likely have put the Canelo fight out of reach for the foreseeable. Seriously if you were managing Golovkin and you'd been promised the Canelo fight next at your own weight why in God's name would you put it on hold to bounce up to 168 for a less lucrative more difficult fight then come back down again?

No manager ever would suggest such a move whether or not they thought they had a shot at beating Ward. The only sensible way to do it would be Canelo first then if he got the Win and there was no rematch a move up to fight Ward if that fight was still there. Telling me you would have done it differently?

When a Ward/ggg fight was realistic, a Canelo/ggg fight wasn't even being negotiated.

[just the facts]

If anybody were “juicing” were PAC and Duran. Duran late in his career because anti doping didn’t even exist and steroid use in the 80’s started to build common practice in boxing. How do you think Vinny Paz was even able to step into the ring with RJJ after such an injury? Vinny Paz looked like a WWE wrestler against RJJ. However, again, nor would a network care in the 80’s, about steroid use since both boxers would waive it off. Back then it was abused for rehabilitation as well as gains…

Canelo has been doing VADA or anti doping since Mosley because he was part of the new generation of star boxers acknowledging anti doping in boxing. Now, WADA, even has a threshold for Clenbuterol and 5.5times more acceptable amounts for what Canelo had. So if Canelo was “juicing” why stop when he could just stay under the radar 5.5times less the acceptable amount each time!? Or should Canelo be on a regimen around 4ng all the time?

now if Canelo had adverse findings and non disclosed results from his biological passport (ala inconsistencies) then it would’ve already been whistleblown. EPO or HGH or Nandrolone from guys like Fury, Miller, Pascal is what type of “juicing” compared to the acceptable Clen nowadays?

You’re not really niche fan doe, more of a casual fan since you compare PAC=Duran for guys who took challenges going up but you write some sympathetic response for GGG who said “154-168 was easy for me” bruh you’re a clown. You’re not fooling anybody. Basically hate on Canelo to hype GGg

You can keep repeating this bu!!shyte and I realize you're in love (that pha66ot kind of love) but your man crush flat out was caught with an over the threshold amount of a banned substance. It is what it is...........

[just the facts]

The last great can crusher is more like it.

Totally disagree. There will be many more great can crushers in the future.

[TX_BOXNG]

Chaveiiiz at 175, Ward only 164 tho lol, now hes just butt sniffing Canelo, never seen a dude be such a b!+ch to embarrass himself to chase a payday

GGG was so well respected cause of the fear he caused earlier hes career, Canelo ruined him after lil Nelo push him back all night with a real mexican style, I still thought GGG might of won those fights, now hes afraid of Demetrius n Charlo lol, he just needs to retire

GGG vs Devery great brutal war

[Vlad_]

- -Yup, typical promoter snafu in making the transition from Euro to American market.

We know the top dog then at 168 Son of Dog who wanted to fight Son of Senior TUE 51-0 at a 162 catchweight was unwilling to fight Golovkin at 164 catchweight. Then we had Son of Senior hisself refusing his offer to come down to 154. In the end, he did purt well fer hisself with American endorsements as the Ks and Loeffler did a brilliant job promoting him, but all the shine went out of his career when he and Loeffler du the immediate Canelo rematch for the smallish, inactive Vanes and he ain't ever been right since.

Ducked immediate Canelo rematch? Canelo tested positive for clen and the fight was cancelled. Not sure if you’re trolling here?