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  • TMLT87
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    #151
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

    All I can tell you is Whyte fought Anthony Joshua in the amateurs and that was 12 years ago.

    So I don't know how Whyte was expected to be more than mediocre as a kickboxer as he must have been about 20 years old and I don't know many pro fighters who have mastered the art at that age.
    Tbh, when you put it like that, it makes me wonder if his age is in Ortiz years. Especially since hes got a 20 year old kid. He was in kickboxing for years and dabbled in MMA as well before moving to boxing.

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    • hectari
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      #152
      Originally posted by rocktop

      You said holms fought 5 years and got into the ufc when in reality she trained as a kickboxer for a few years, trained with an mma coach for boxing, than trained mma full time than fought 5 years. All this was in a span of 10-13 years where she already mixed 2 fighting styles and was familiar with mma so saying 5 years isnt that under estimating?
      Dog get a life, so i gotta type all that? We all know holms background and she used to date joey villasenor and her dads a preacher, lol. Seems you are trying to gloom on claressa and give her no hope is what.
      Last edited by hectari; 06-12-2021, 09:41 AM.

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      • GhostofDempsey
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        #153
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

        I don't need to post them. I can just direct people to go read the Lounge.

        On the flip side, can you post any examples of me ***-hating? Examples that DON'T involve criticism of the Rothschilds?

        Yeah...I didn't think so.
        Please go ahead and direct them to the lounge. They won’t won’t find anything racist from me there either.

        Shields is a classless piece of shyt, her and her family, so it’s no surprise you defend her.

        Your ***-hating comments were deleted when you and Chollo were on here bashing them. Blaming them for the violence that is inspired by rap and hip hop. You’re one of those slick, under the radar racists. Speaking in code and supporting fellow racists.

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        • Lomadeaux
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          #154
          Originally posted by TMLT87


          Not all that long ago they were.

          Lucas Browne won the "regular" WBA title from Chagaev after switching from MMA to boxing too. And Whyte and Jarrell Miller were both mediocre kickboxers first, the latter lost twice to an old Cro Cop who had been recently cut from the UFC after three KO losses in a row.
          Like I said before, no UFC champion could ever become a world boxing champion.

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          • TMLT87
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            #155
            Originally posted by Lomadeaux

            Like I said before, no UFC champion could ever become a world boxing champion.
            Again, Charles ****ing Martin and Stiverne were champions. Even Andy Ruiz and Parker are pretty ****. Under the right circumstances a guy like Ngannou, or in the past someone like Kharitanov or Cro Cop, could absolutely get their hands on a belt.

            The only "world boxing champion" who became a UFC champion, was a woman, who had kickboxed as long as she had boxed, and who had been doing MMA for many years, and she won the belt with a kick. Nunes could probably win a female boxing title right now.
            Last edited by TMLT87; 06-13-2021, 12:40 PM.

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            • Lomadeaux
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              #156
              Originally posted by TMLT87

              Again, Charles ****ing Martin and Stiverne were champions. Even Andy Ruiz and Parker are pretty ****. Under the right circumstances a guy like Ngannou, or in the past someone like Kharitanov or Cro Cop, could absolutely get their hands on a belt.

              The only "world boxing champion" who became a UFC champion, was a woman, who had kickboxed as long as she had boxed, and who had been doing MMA for many years, and she won the belt with a kick. Nunes could probably win a female boxing title right now.
              Dude... are you confused? NO UFC CHAMPION... COULD EVER... BECOME A WORLD BOXING CHAMPION..............

              What else do you want me to say to explain this to you?

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              • TMLT87
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                #157
                Originally posted by Lomadeaux

                Dude... are you confused? NO UFC CHAMPION... COULD EVER... BECOME A WORLD BOXING CHAMPION..............

                What else do you want me to say to explain this to you?
                And ive just given you examples of where they would actually have a pretty good shot at doing so. 6-2 knocked out twice in MMA bum Lucas Browne went on to become a top 10 ranked HW and won the WBA regular title from Chagaev but you dont think an actual elite MMA striker could do the same or better?

                It will get even more likely as MMAs talent pool grows and boxings talent pool declines too.

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                • Lomadeaux
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by TMLT87

                  And ive just given you examples of where they would actually have a pretty good shot at doing so. 6-2 knocked out twice in MMA bum Lucas Browne went on to become a top 10 ranked HW and won the WBA regular title from Chagaev but you dont think an actual elite MMA striker could do the same or better?

                  It will get even more likely as MMAs talent pool grows and boxings talent pool declines too.
                  How old are you?

                  MMA guys make peanuts compared to Boxers. If they could do it... they'd do it... Boxing takes years of experience before you can get to a elite amateur and pro level. MMA training doesn't correlate at all. The most they fight is 25 minutes in a championship match. Boxing is 36... used to be 45.

                  People want to compare the two sports, they're completely different.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Lomadeaux

                    MMA guys make peanuts compared to Boxers. If they could do it... they'd do it...
                    Lucas Browne...a total bum, did it. And kickboxing bums Whyte and Miller did it too, kickboxing pays even less than MMA. Not to mention the recent trend of MMA fighters walking into high paying novelty boxing matches along with Youtubers and other none boxers.

                    The pay argument isnt gonna hold up for much longer anyway, maybe another 10 years max at the current rate. MMAs pay has grown significantly over the last 15 years and theres a strong push for it to increase more and more.

                    Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                    The most they fight is 25 minutes in a championship match. Boxing is 36... used to be 45.
                    Go shadow box for 3 mins, then shadowbox for 5 mins but now mix in kicks, knees, takedown drills, get up and down off the floor a few times and throw something heavy around, and tell me which one was more draining.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by TMLT87

                      Lucas Browne...a total bum, did it. And kickboxing bums Whyte and Miller did it too, kickboxing pays even less than MMA. Not to mention the recent trend of MMA fighters walking into high paying novelty boxing matches along with Youtubers and other none boxers.

                      The pay argument isnt gonna hold up for much longer anyway, maybe another 10 years max at the current rate. MMAs pay has grown significantly over the last 15 years and theres a strong push for it to increase more and more.



                      Go shadow box for 3 mins, then shadowbox for 5 mins but now mix in kicks, knees, takedown drills, get up and down off the floor a few times and throw something heavy around, and tell me which one was more draining.
                      Floyd toyed with McGregor before he put him away. He was gassed after 4 rounds. Wake up dude. The highest paid MMA fighters make a little more than a million a fight. The highest paid boxers make 30 plus, 40 plus, etc.. wake up.

                      Once again little boy.. no UFC Champion will ever become a World Champion in boxing.

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