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  • don miguel
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    #151
    Originally posted by animalavenue
    Just curious to know if anyone on here actually thought pbf-jmm was a bigger fight that cotto-pac????

    I certainly dont and would have never expected it to outsell that particual fight seeing that pac and cotto are both big draws. Pbf is a big draw but jmm isnt that big.

    Floyd vs cotto or pac would outsell those two against each other anyday.

    Take off your fan glasses and be people.
    Floyd brags that he is the biggest draw against anybody. This fight will prove him wrong. Floyd is already doing and spending a lot to sell this fight and still fans don't bite it.

    If Pac-JMM 3 will happen, it will do big numbers.

    Floyd vs Cotto would not outsell Pac-Cotto

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    • don miguel
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      #152
      Originally posted by Young Mike
      Mayweather Jr. has been hyping his fight on WWE monday night Raw. So he's fight has been advertised good enough.
      Floyd is hyping the fight everywhere. WWE, ESPN, every tabloid, every website.. yet the ticket sales are still slow. They will show the fight on movie theaters coz they know it won't sell.

      They spend a lot to advertise it. I'm wondering how could GBP could recover its expenses especially with the 15 M guarantee of Floyd.

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      • Xcusemymood
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        #153
        Originally posted by don miguel
        Floyd brags that he is the biggest draw against anybody. This fight will prove him wrong. Floyd is already doing and spending a lot to sell this fight and still fans don't bite it.

        If Pac-JMM 3 will happen, it will do big numbers.

        Floyd vs Cotto would not outsell Pac-Cotto
        When did he say that? Show me a quote where he said he is the biggest draw against anyone. Anyone who believes that and trys to actually hold him accountable for saying that(if he realy did) is a fool and compeletely unrealistic.

        Of course Pac Jmm 3 will do big numbers, whats the point?

        I bet Floyd Cotto would outsell Pac Cotto.

        Again, anyone who thinks Floyd Jmm is as big of a fight as Pac Cotto and expects it to outsell it is a fool.

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        • don miguel
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          #154
          Originally posted by animalavenue
          When did he say that? Show me a quote where he said he is the biggest draw against anyone. Anyone who believes that and trys to actually hold him accountable for saying that(if he realy did) is a fool and compeletely unrealistic.

          Of course Pac Jmm 3 will do big numbers, whats the point?

          I bet Floyd Cotto would outsell Pac Cotto.

          Again, anyone who thinks Floyd Jmm is as big of a fight as Pac Cotto and expects it to outsell it is a fool.
          Do I need to take note of every news just to show it to you? Floyd have said many times the biggest fights is him against anybody. Am I your secretary to list the quotes for you? Floyd is the fool for saying it in the first place.

          The point is Pac JMM 3 will do better than Floyd JMM.

          That's your opinion but i don't think so.

          I never thought Floyd JMM is as big of a fight as Pac Cotto and never expected to outsell it. The Mayweather Promotions and GBP did. They announced Floyd JMM is the biggest fight of the year. Bigger than Pac Cotto. Who is the fool now?

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          • zzat
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            #155
            Originally posted by don miguel
            Pac's fight was before the credit crunch, but also before he fought DLH and Hatton. Pac became huge after those 2 fights.

            Floyd and GBP had already gave up on PPV in showing it on cinemas.
            I doubt it will do 400,000 buys. I'll bet if Pac-JMM 3 push through, it will do more than 400,000 buys. Maybe doubled.
            So you agree with Floyd that Pac just became a superstar recently.
            Anyway if Floyd-JMM does less than 400,000 then that's that but people should not compare Floyd-JMM to Pac-Cotto. Floyd-Hatton was bigger than Pac-Hatton and that was after Pac beat DLH.
            If the fight is made I think Floyd vs Cotto will outsell Pac vs Cotto.
            Last edited by zzat; 09-04-2009, 06:40 AM.

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            • don miguel
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              #156
              Originally posted by zzat
              So you agree with Floyd that Pac just became a superstar recently.
              Anyway if Floyd-JMM does less than 400,000 then that's that but people should not compare Floyd-JMM to Pac-Cotto. Floyd-Hatton was bigger than Pac-Hatton and that was after Pac beat DLH.
              If the fight is made I think Floyd vs Cotto will outsell Pac vs Cotto.
              Yes. Pac became a superstar only after his fight with DLH and Hatton.

              If Floyd-JMM does less than 400,000, then Pac could be the bigger draw than Floyd coz Pac made 400,000 vs JMM before he fought DLH and Hatton. But we can never tell for sure bcoz Pac-JMM was before the crisis. So is the case of Floyd-Hatton and Pac-Hatton. Pac-Hatton was during the height of the crisis. Moreso Pac became a bigger star after the Hatton fight. Everybody talks about the KO punch.

              But you're right that Floyd-JMM should not be compared with Pac-Cotto.
              The problem is GBP and Mayweather Promotions is saying that Floyd-JMM is the biggest fight of the year.

              IMO Pac-Cotto will do better against Floyd-Cotto in the same economic condition

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              • gopi11
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                #157
                Originally posted by don miguel
                Yes. Pac became a superstar only after his fight with DLH and Hatton.

                If Floyd-JMM does less than 400,000, then Pac could be the bigger draw than Floyd coz Pac made 400,000 vs JMM before he fought DLH and Hatton. But we can never tell for sure bcoz Pac-JMM was before the crisis. So is the case of Floyd-Hatton and Pac-Hatton. Pac-Hatton was during the height of the crisis. Moreso Pac became a bigger star after the Hatton fight. Everybody talks about the KO punch.

                But you're right that Floyd-JMM should not be compared with Pac-Cotto.
                The problem is GBP and Mayweather Promotions is saying that Floyd-JMM is the biggest fight of the year.

                IMO Pac-Cotto will do better against Floyd-Cotto in the same economic condition


                Don't forget that the Pac/JMM II does not have the luxury of being featured on HBO's 24/7, so that evens the playing field since the Floyd/JMM fight will in this sagging economy. The difference between the Floyd/Hatton and the Pac/Hatton ppv buys was just 60 or so thousand, with the former hyped up as a battle between two undefeated fighters under a robust economy, so the mystic was there, while the latter was just that, a Pac/Hatton fight...

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by don miguel
                  They will show the fight on movie theaters coz they know it won't sell.
                  It won't be free in movie theatres! If it sells in the movie theatres then those sales are sales, just as much as any other sales are sales. A dollar is a dollar regardless of where it was made. And it's great for boxing that it should be shown in movie theatres like it was in the old days. I wish that happened in all big fights, so ordinary fans who can't afford the huge PPV fees can see the fights, and so that fans can see fights on big screens again. Only a real hater would criticise the fact it's being shown in theatres, when that's so obviously good for boxing and good for fans.

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                  • Dave Rado
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by don miguel
                    Do I need to take note of every news just to show it to you? Floyd have said many times the biggest fights is him against anybody.
                    No he hasn't. And if he had, you'd be able to find the quote on Google. He's claimed to be the biggest draw in boxing, which is arguably true - but he has never claimed that him against someone who isn't a draw would outsell two huge draws fighting each other.

                    It's true that GPB claimed this was the biggest fight of the year but that's just promoters hyping a fight they are promoting - you shouldn't take that seriously, they're just doing their job.
                    Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-04-2009, 10:39 AM.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      It won't be free in movie theatres! If it sells in the movie theatres then those sales are sales, just as much as any other sales are sales. A dollar is a dollar regardless of where it was made. And it's great for boxing that it should be shown in movie theatres like it was in the old days. I wish that happened in all big fights, so ordinary fans who can't afford the huge PPV fees can see the fights, and so that fans can see fights on big screens again. Only a real hater would criticise the fact it's being shown in theatres, when that's so obviously good for boxing and good for fans.
                      selling the fight at the theaters will affect the ppv sales. that means GBP has given up on it as a ppv.

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