How Much Has Deontay Learned Between Then & Now

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  • *Makaveli*
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    #21
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    By the time D fights again he’ll have had 18 months minimum to learn new things

    D did mention on a broadcast about always looking to learn and improve
    He's gonna come out throwing windmills

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    • KingGilgamesh
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      #22
      Originally posted by Toffee

      He's still blaming juju, gloves and bent trainers.

      He's learned nothing.

      To develop the kind of skills he needs to develop at the level he needs to develop them at, he's got to be all in on it. His words say he isn't.
      Again, thats not how boxing/fighting works and you're speaking as someone who I am pretty sure has never done it.

      All that matters is action, how he looks in the ring. There are a TON of fighters who talk up future performances only to turn out to be a dud, tons of dudes who looked off/anxious in the pre-fight build up only to deliver career performances.

      All that matters is whats going on in Wilder's head. The beauty of fight sports is the honesty, a fighter can talk all the game in the world but fundamentally it matters what they're putting in during camp and in the ring that matters. Wilder's excuses should mean (as many of you clowns said) that he shouldn't even be fighting, and yet he were are less than two months away and he's fighting the man who bested in him twice.

      Sorry, but people like you don't really anything when it comes to these sports. You're all caught up in image and rhetoric. You're the type to sit online and listen to the bullocks someone like Hearn says and take it gospel. Tons of amazing athletes have come out with real doozies for excuses as to why they lost. Foreman, Lomachenko recently...what really matters is how they perform in the ring when they return. Maybe Wilder get's beaten and embarassed for a third time, who knows, but one thing you're be a damn idiot to do now is still deny he's not taking it seriously. He could have easily on sat on his excuses and retired with them.

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      • MONGOOSE66
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        #23
        He hasn’t learned nothing in the last 5 years much less the last two fights. Oh, I’m wrong, he did learn how to make creative EXCUSES.

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        • Toffee
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          #24
          Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

          Again, thats not how boxing/fighting works and you're speaking as someone who I am pretty sure has never done it.

          All that matters is action, how he looks in the ring. There are a TON of fighters who talk up future performances only to turn out to be a dud, tons of dudes who looked off/anxious in the pre-fight build up only to deliver career performances.

          All that matters is whats going on in Wilder's head. The beauty of fight sports is the honesty, a fighter can talk all the game in the world but fundamentally it matters what they're putting in during camp and in the ring that matters. Wilder's excuses should mean (as many of you clowns said) that he shouldn't even be fighting, and yet he were are less than two months away and he's fighting the man who bested in him twice.

          Sorry, but people like you don't really anything when it comes to these sports. You're all caught up in image and rhetoric. You're the type to sit online and listen to the bullocks someone like Hearn says and take it gospel. Tons of amazing athletes have come out with real doozies for excuses as to why they lost. Foreman, Lomachenko recently...what really matters is how they perform in the ring when they return. Maybe Wilder get's beaten and embarassed for a third time, who knows, but one thing you're be a damn idiot to do now is still deny he's not taking it seriously. He could have easily on sat on his excuses and retired with them.
          He's still sitting on his excuses.

          Wilder is about to fight at the very highest level. He needs the best preparation, the best fight plan, and the best performance of his life.

          You think it doesn't matter that he's still into juju rather than acknowledging his shortcomings? It's not like this is new with Wilder - we all saw him proclaiming that power was all he needed and that he only needed to be perfect for 2 seconds. The guy's an open book. Never interested in improving because he surrounded himself with people who told him he was perfect as he was. Anyone who said otherwise was removed from camp. We all saw this happening.

          I'm not interested in his talk of decapitating Fury. That's the rhetoric. I'm interested in whether he has handled the defeat and is preparing himself 100% for a big fight. If he still doesn't fully believe that he was beaten fair and square then he's not giving it 100%. It's not about rhetoric, it's about preparation.

          And that shows up on fight night.
          Last edited by Toffee; 06-03-2021, 03:55 PM.

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          • darealperfect!
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            #25
            this fight should be an indicator. hes a physical beast but low boxing IQ. he gotta start throwing and staying consistent with jab. from his IG vids it looks like they trynna make him more mobil.


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            • YoungManRumble
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              #26
              How much of that time was he working on his craft though vs working on excuses and conspiracy theories?

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              • 4truth
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                #27
                Originally posted by darealperfect!
                this fight should be an indicator. hes a physical beast but low boxing IQ. he gotta start throwing and staying consistent with jab. from his IG vids it looks like they trynna make him more mobil.


                That is exactly what I think he needs to do. Mobility and working on getting his shots off without a hitch. Last time he was standing straight up, he couldn't react at all. His physical advantage isn't ever going to be physical strength, he has got to have quicker feet, more lateral movement. Move to the side and just fire, mix it up high and low. He should be making Fury work hard just playing defense and keeping Wilder in front of him.

                The second fight was like watching a shooting guard trying to post up against a center.

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                • tritium_arma
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                  #28
                  He learned to pick a lighter suit. He learned how to read an autopsy report.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #29
                    He's 35 years old. Thats past prime. He has a punchers chance vs anyone in the division, but idk that he's learnt stuff in that last 18 months that is gonna change things that much vs Fury that he didn't learn in the last 12 years of boxing professionally.

                    He had 12 rounds to land that perfect shot in the first fight. He didn't do it. He had 7 rounds to land that perfect shot in the second fight. He didn't do it & Fury got in a quite a few of solid shots himself that time around to even out the knockdown race to 2 to 2.

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                    • FinlandsFinest
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh
                      Just lol at the idea that you can't add new things to your arsenal at 35+

                      It's what I hate about boxing sometimes. So obvious that most of you have never, ever had a fight in your lives let alone stepped in the ring.

                      If you want to be a half way competitive fighter beyond your 30s (which is becoming more of a commonality in both boxing and MMA) you HAVE to change up your style to accommodate your dissipating reactions and speed.
                      Yes, sports science has developed alot. Being in your 40s you can still go, (Look at Tom Brady)

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