Comments Thread For: Frank Warren Reacts To John Fury's Anger Over Wilder Trilogy Fight

[andocom]

Arum could not terminate the contract without incurring costs. So it wasn't an option. He and ESPN postponed the fight from July to October to December to February. Sources provided.

What do you have? Hearn mentioning something about a made-up get out clause that he never mentioned the whole time he was promoting Joshua-Fury for 6 months. Only now that he's taking heat for the fallout. Anybody else who's taking heat running with it.

What's the reality?
Wilder wins arbitration.
Fury-Wilder 3.

Hearn didn't mention a clause to extinguish the rematch in December while promoting Fury Joshua for 6 months because he didn't know about it, he found out about it from the arbitrators ruling, how would he know about it previous, it was in a private contract he wasn't a party to?

Fury's own father is raging about it, and Warren very obviously failed to deny it.

How can you fail to understand that?

You seem to intent on building a narrative you like with no supporting facts, while actually ignoring what has been reported, it might be time to stop digging in this hole.

[davefromvancouv]

You didn't provide any source you clown. "talking about" is not a source it happened. All you do is lie. You must have the same thing as Fury. You have zero sources.

I get it. You've been wrong for the past year about everything and now you're lashing out. Hearn failed to freeze Wilder out, Joshua may lose against Usyk and Wilder is fighting Fury next month.

But I did warn you that the Wilder arbitration case was ongoing and was preventing your fight from happening. You lashed out then like you're lashing out now. Chill out man. Accept the fact that you were wrong and move on...

[davefromvancouv]

Hearn didn't mention a clause to extinguish the rematch in December while promoting Fury Joshua for 6 months because he didn't know about it, he found out about it from the arbitrators ruling, how would he know about it previous, it was in a private contract he wasn't a party to?

Fury's own father is raging about it, and Warren very obviously failed to deny it.

How can you fail to understand that?

You seem to intent on building a narrative you like with no supporting facts, while actually ignoring what has been reported, it might be time to stop digging in this hole.

And I keep telling you that they couldn't terminate the contract without incurring costs. So they didn't and believed they would win arbitration. They guessed wrong.

[andocom]

And I keep telling you that they couldn't terminate the contract without incurring costs. So they didn't and believed they would win arbitration. They guessed wrong.

Yeah, only problem with that is you are making it up with no supporting evidence. You have no idea what remedy if any was in the contract for extinguishing the rematch clause, and the reporting that has mentioned the ability to exit the rematch has made no mention of any costs.

You are stating these things as facts when they are baseless opinions.

[davefromvancouv]

Yeah, only problem with that is you are making it up with no supporting evidence. You have no idea what remedy if any was in the contract for extinguishing the rematch clause, and the reporting that has mentioned the ability to exit the rematch has made no mention of any costs.

You are stating these things as facts when they are baseless opinions.

Think about it...

Fury spent all that money on lawyer fees for mediation and arbitration, spent all that time out the ring, and went through all those months promoting a fight with Joshua.

But the crazy narrative is that this was all unnecessary. All he had to do was terminate the contract in December, and walk away scot-free.

Give it up man.
Fury lost.
Joshua lost.
Hearn lost.
Arum lost.

They all thought they could cheat Wilder out of a contractually obligated rematch, and they failed. Now they're trying to point fingers at each other...

[Fighter78]

Same here. Although he's in his mid 30's I definitely think Joyce is a threat in the HW division.
Good power , good jab and a good chin.

If by "threat" you mean no threat at all then I'm with ya pal....you're forgetting that Joe is the slowest heavyweight in the division by far......Joe Joyce is better off facing the latest UK hype jobs like Daniel Dubois...he's not doing anything against anybody else unless he holds a SIGNIFICANT size advantage....like with Usyk...and even then I think Usyk beats him to death...he's just too slow.

[Robbie Barrett]

Yeah, only problem with that is you are making it up with no supporting evidence. You have no idea what remedy if any was in the contract for extinguishing the rematch clause, and the reporting that has mentioned the ability to exit the rematch has made no mention of any costs.

You are stating these things as facts when they are baseless opinions.

Yep. He's just making up a story to fit his agenda. At first he said the rematch clause didn't exist and Hearn was lying. Now he's saying it'd cost them. He said they shifted the date to Feb. All lies he's making up. Must be something wrong with the guy.

[kafkod]

You quoted the wrong post. And your narrative falls on its face since Arum and ESPN postponed the fight to February. They would have no standing to terminate the contract in December because they had already moved it to February.

If there was a clause in the contract saying it could be terminated in December, then postponements wouldn't get rid of it, because it was only there in the first place to give both sides an "out" if the process was dragging on too long. Use your brain, ffs.

[kafkod]

Think about it...

Fury spent all that money on lawyer fees for mediation and arbitration, spent all that time out the ring, and went through all those months promoting a fight with Joshua.

But the crazy narrative is that this was all unnecessary. All he had to do was terminate the contract in December, and walk away scot-free.

Give it up man.
Fury lost.
Joshua lost.
Hearn lost.
Arum lost.

They all thought they could cheat Wilder out of a contractually obligated rematch, and they failed. Now they're trying to point fingers at each other...

You're talking nonsense, Joshua and Hearn didn't have any contractual obligations to Wilder, so how could they have tried to cheat him out of anything?

That's like saying that if a married man takes off his wedding ring, tells everybody he's single and gets himself a girlfriend, then she is just as guilty of "cheating" as he is!

[davefromvancouv]

If there was a clause in the contract saying it could be terminated in December, then that clause would still apply. Postponements wouldn't get rid of it, because it was only there in the first place to give both sides an "out" if the process was dragging on too long. Use your brain, ffs.

It couldn't be terminated unilaterally without incurring costs and more legal challenges. So it was never an option.

They wouldn't pay all that money and waste all that time if they could kill the contract that easily. Obviously, it wasn't worth it. So the get out clause is garbage and a way for Hearn to deflect blame onto Arum. But in reality, Hearn shouldn't have gotten involved with Fury in the first place, while he was in a contract dispute with Wilder.

But he didn't care. They all tried to prevent Wilder from retaining his title, you were hoping that Wilder would be frozen out, and it didn't work out for you.