Comments Thread For: Frank Warren Reacts To John Fury's Anger Over Wilder Trilogy Fight

[andocom]

No hate for Hearn. But I believe he was trying to deny Wilder his rightful chance at redemption and I'm glad he failed. A dirty deed done dirt cheap.

So ..

About the contract termination...

It's kinda hard to terminate a contract with one fighter when you publicly admit that you are available to fight another fighter (e.g. Fury wanting to fight December 5th, Fury wanting to fight Joshua). So termination would have come at a huge cost. Which means that it's unrealistic to even consider it, it was never an option...

So the only reasonable option was to follow the existing contract and do arbitration. Hearn knew this. But never cautioned that it could be issue. Then you'll say, Arum assured him. Then I'll say, give me break...

Not sure how you keep missing the point, Wilder had a rematch clause with a time limit, that time limit wasn't met, apparently this allowed the rematch clause to be extinguished if proper notification is given, this proper notification was not given by Arum for whatever reason.

So no, its not hard to terminate a rematch clause while talking to another fighter, if the contract has allowances to do just that, and no termination wouldn't come at a huge cost if you are following the process laid out in the contract.

This was Fury's father and Hearn's point, Arum could have done it without cost and without breaking the contract, but either through incompetence or ulterior motives they didn't.

Blaming Hearn is bizarre, at least he was doing all he could to make the undisputed fight, perhaps he should have cautioned people, maybe something like: We have the site fee, biggest ever, we have broadcaster agreements, both fighters have signed, however lets not get ahead of ourselves, Bob Arum could still completely **** this up by not notifying team Wilder they aren't taking the rematch as required by their contract.

[Zonkmeister]

So they could have paid Team Wilder off back in December but didn't? Lewl. No wonder the Fury's are salty.

Eh, I'd rather see Fury-AJ, but this should be interesting anyway. I'd like to see what, if any, developments has Fury made in this pressuring style. Wilder's always dangerous with that right, but if Fury manages to wobble him early with some egg-weights and a costume and gypsy curses I don't see him landing quite enough to take Fury out. I'm also assuming Fury's going to go for the KO again, and I think they should make plans for a referee that's not going to let him grapple as much as last time.

I can see a couple things Wilder could do to trouble Fury, but I'm not gonna share them here as he's not paying me enough, lol.

[davefromvancouv]

Not sure how you keep missing the point, Wilder had a rematch clause with a time limit, that time limit wasn't met, apparently this allowed the rematch clause to be extinguished if proper notification is given, this proper notification was not given by Arum for whatever reason.

So no, its not hard to terminate a rematch clause while talking to another fighter, if the contract has allowances to do just that, and no termination wouldn't come at a huge cost if you are following the process laid out in the contract.

This was Fury's father and Hearn's point, Arum could have done it without cost and without breaking the contract, but either through incompetence or ulterior motives they didn't.

Blaming Hearn is bizarre, at least he was doing all he could to make the undisputed fight, perhaps he should have cautioned people, maybe something like: We have the site fee, biggest ever, we have broadcaster agreements, both fighters have signed, however lets not get ahead of ourselves, Bob Arum could still completely **** this up by not notifying team Wilder they aren't taking the rematch as required by their contract.

This is a false narrative promoted by Hearn to deflect blame from him to Arum. Recall that it was Arum who postponed the fight from July to October because of Wilder's injury, then to December because of the pandemic, then ESPN postponed it to February because of the football schedule. Now the fake narrative is that there was a termination clause that could have been invoked in December.

Well if Arum and ESPN postponed the fight to February, then how could they then turn around and said the contract should be terminated in December? It was never an option because they themselves postponed the fight, and they would have been responsible for significant damages...

[Robbie Barrett]

This is a false narrative promoted by Hearn to deflect blame from him to Arum. Recall that it was Arum who postponed the fight from July to October because of Wilder's injury, then to December because of the pandemic, then ESPN postponed it to February because of the football schedule. Now the fake narrative is that there was a termination clause that could have been invoked in December.

Well if Arum and ESPN postponed the fight to February, then how could they then turn around and said the contract should be terminated in December? It was never an option because they themselves postponed the fight, and they would have been responsible for significant damages...

There you go again making up your own BS with zero evidence. You're a clown.

[davefromvancouv]

There you go again making up your own BS with zero evidence. You're a clown.

Evidence:

Arum moves fight to December:
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-bob-arum-says

ESPN moves fight to February:
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ew-date-sought

[Robbie Barrett]

Evidence:

Arum moves fight to December:
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-bob-arum-says

ESPN moves fight to February:
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ew-date-sought

Where's the evidence there wasn't a clause to terminate the contract? Hearn, Fury and Warren pretty much confirmed there was. So provide your evidence or STFU with your lies.

[davefromvancouv]

Where's the evidence there wasn't a clause to terminate the contract? Hearn, Fury and Warren pretty much confirmed there was. So provide your evidence or STFU with your lies.

I'll repeat: if Arum and ESPN postponed the fight to February, how could they then come back and say they want to terminate the contract in December, without having to incur serious damages?

Answer: They didn't. It wasn't an option. Anyone who believes they did either doesn't know about the February postponement, or are pushing an agenda. A false narrative agenda.

[DaNeutral.]

Frank needs to realise that everybody can see how fishy this whole thing is. Nobody believes that Arum, Warren and Fury were totally shocked about the result of the arbitration and that they were all set for and excited about the Anthony Joshua fight.

[Robbie Barrett]

I'll repeat: if Arum and ESPN postponed the fight to February, how could they then come back and say they want to terminate the contract in December, without having to incur serious damages?

Answer: They didn't. It wasn't an option. Anyone who believes they did either doesn't know about the February postponement, or are pushing an agenda. A false narrative agenda.

You realise the link you posted doesn't say it was moved to Feb right? You're making up your own story to fit your agenda, what a moron.

[davefromvancouv]

You realise the link you posted doesn't say it was moved to Feb right? You're making up your own story to fit your agenda, what a moron.

You just have think a little bit. ESPN postponed the fight because of the football schedule. So when does the football season end?

Answer for Robbie Barrett: February

If you still can't figure it out, here's another one that spells out for you:

ESPN: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/08/tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3-being-moved-to-february-2021