Why did everyone ignore/downplay arbitration?

[kushking]

Arbitrators and mediators generally work within a framework that determines their bias. Perfect example is something like housing court, where,in this case, judges, are slightly biased towards the renters. The idea being: to try to prevent homelessness. So precident is hardly the only milestone in such a preceding. But your essentially arguing that because people who were destroyed by Covid did not get a fair shake, that this should be the norm. In basic contract law there are provisions for when a party is unable to perform, through no fault of their own... Like me! I am supposed to inspect a property, get hit by a car... can my contract to perform be considered enforcable?

You feel making the fight without fans was an option... I am not so sure it wasn't, but I would have to see the contract to consider the possibility.

A contract is a contract, you can't screw someone out of what they agreed upon based on some bs scamdemic(only housing contracts were voided by government due to covid,no business contracts were). It very much was Wilders/Pbc fault the contract wasn't met by the deadline. Regardless if they lost money,thats completely unfair to make Fury pay for Wilder not wanting to fight.

Remember when KBR was sued by a woman who was ****d in Iraq? She was forced into arbitration due to contract she signed & lost because arbitrators sided with kbr because they are who pays them & whos likely to in the future.(they even made a docu called hot coffee)

[Inspired]

Where are you people getting this idea that Wilder went AWOL? That is not what happened. Arum lied. Wilder never rejected any date. Mike Coppinger said Top Rank told PBC they were getting the dates & venue ready (being they are the lead promoter) then suddenly told them the contract is expired. They tried to pull a fast one and got caught. Nobody went AWOL stop believing lying Bob

eitherway they both look bad. Wilder did go into hiding and only spoke when aj-fury agreed on 50%. It's what wilder tends to do, what pbc guys (other than porter, spence jr, those type of guys) do.

[Curt Henning]

there were several potential factors...i believe alot of people just wanted to believe wilder had no claim....because he let a date pass and they just wanted to believe he has no right to anything, including breathing, since he was beaten in that fashion...these same people felt he had no right to breathe before that though.....these people are now all pissed at fury

[Motorcity Cobra]

eitherway they both look bad. Wilder did go into hiding and only spoke when aj-fury agreed on 50%. It's what wilder tends to do, what pbc guys (other than porter, spence jr, those type of guys) do.

Go into hiding? You people are brainwashed and that's why you're always wrong and have been wrong about this from day 1. He activated his rematch clause & Top Rank was supposed to make the fight. The only contact they had with Wilder's team were the dates which Wilder agreed to but Fury didn't then they tried to say the contract expired which it didn't.

[_Rexy_]

I didn't. I was low key looking forward to Usyk making Joshua look like a big stiff idiot.

[The Big Dunn]

So many people want PBC and Haymon to lose or fail that they let that sentiment guide them rather than the facts.

If this didn’t involve a Haymon associated boxer, I think most rational people would’ve realized there was a 3rd fight guaranteed and that as much as we want AJ/Fury, you can’t just ignore a signed legal document.

Also, and I can’t stress this enough, why don’t people realize Arum is not doing what is best for the sport but best for him and TR. A 3rd fight benefits Arum in that Fury is the A side and frankly should win. When had Arum ever given up what appears to be an “easy” payday?

oh yeah and a lot of you guys hate Cobra and let that hate cloud how they saw things.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

The media totally ignored it until the past week or so when they said a decision would be rendered soon but even when giving updates they never acknowledged it could stop AJ v Fury. The only one I saw asking Hearn about it was Michelle Joy Phelps and he'd respond that Arum told him there is nothing to worry about they'll probably just order damages for Wilder. Eddie is crazy if he believed Bob & didn't consult his own lawyers on this matter who would've told him arbitration could potentially order Fury to fight Wilder again.

Fans downplayed it. Anytime some of us would bring it up other fans would repeat Arum and Hearns words saying they'll just order damages for Wilder. Nobody knew what the arbiter would order and that's the point some of us kept trying to get across. This was a major factor holding up the fight and nobody was going to put any money up as long as this issue was ongoing. Monday wasn't a surprise to me. I expected it but the way this was ignored and downplayed surprised me

The media were an absolute disgrace, deep down they knew Fury-AJ was unlikely to happen but they sold lie after lie to the public. I’d expect nothing less though tbh.

[billeau2]

A contract is a contract, you can't screw someone out of what they agreed upon based on some bs scamdemic(only housing contracts were voided by government due to covid,no business contracts were). It very much was Wilders/Pbc fault the contract wasn't met by the deadline. Regardless if they lost money,thats completely unfair to make Fury pay for Wilder not wanting to fight.

Remember when KBR was sued by a woman who was ****d in Iraq? She was forced into arbitration due to contract she signed & lost because arbitrators sided with kbr because they are who pays them & whos likely to in the future.(they even made a docu called hot coffee)

Yes a contract is a contract, And there are two competing provisions to entangling contract disputes: untangling what the contract says and making both parties whole according to performance. You are taking a position in assuming Wilder needed to do anything once he indicated he wanted performance. Im not debating your right to do so... But the world is subjective when we all want objectivity. Either Wilder did not do enough to indicate he intended to demand performance, or factors involving acts outside either parties control affected performance... Right?

[Mammoth]

The media were an absolute disgrace, deep down they knew Fury-AJ was unlikely to happen but they sold lie after lie to the public. I’d expect nothing less though tbh.

I think boxing media ate it up. I really do. Whole lot of egg on a whole lot of face right now.

[Ray*]

I definitely got ****** in by Arum who happens to be a lawyer. They saw the contract etc and I totally believed his judgement. Looked like Hearn got ****** in the same way too.