Why do people act like Charlo-Derevychenko was a blowout

[famicommander]

Charlo won the fight clearly. It wasn't a blowout but he beat him by a slightly more comfortable margin than Jacobs or Golovkin did (and, to be clear, I scored all of those fights the same way the decisions went).

[techliam]

115-113 type fight

but with Golovkin it was ‘went life and death’, but for Charlo ‘clear, solid win’. NSB is a special place

laughable really. I think Charlo did slightly better, but you wouldn’t be mad if Chenko was given the win by the judges

this was Charlos first and only challenge at middleweight, a division he’s been in for 3 years. Time to step up. Jacobs or Andrade would be good shouts. I’m guessing Golovkin/Murata are signed for December

[Boxing-1013]

Fights can be very competitive without being close on the scorecards, Derevyanchenko was in it throughout, but Charlo was clearly doing just a bit more most rounds. Just like you can have fights that are very close without really being competitive, where one guy just ekes out a couple rounds and maybe the other dude gives away a couple to rest, but dominates the remainder of the rounds, yet it can appear close on the cards.

I didn't see that at all man. To me it was clear Charlo was in a fight the whole way. When you're up 9-3 etc, there is some degree of coasting going on. Definitely didn't see that in that fight. It's just very hard to coast vs Sergei really.

[Boxing-1013]

Charlo must be part Euro now because he didn't seem to like it to the body and if I recall got visibly hurt in one of the rounds. Can't remember what round though.

Yeah it was late in the fight. I feel there were a lot of groups on here etc in that fight who wanted to see Charlo do really well, not really the same for Derevy. Only reason I can think for why the scores were so wide for many.

[Boxing-1013]

It depends on your definition of blowout, they were even for the first 4 rounds but then Charlo started to pull ahead and Chenko couldn't close the gap.

I had it about even after 4 too, iirc. And Sergei was definitely still in the final 8 rounds man. Punch stats aren't everything, but they will at least tell you that. I thought Charlo was better early but didn't extend a huge lead, and then Sergei with his workrate got himself back into the fight.

[Boxing-1013]

Charlo won the fight clearly. It wasn't a blowout but he beat him by a slightly more comfortable margin than Jacobs or Golovkin did (and, to be clear, I scored all of those fights the same way the decisions went).

I just didn't see anything that Charlo did, round in round out, or over the course of the fight, that would signify 'clear win'. His jab was solid at times, and when he landed it, he generally kept Sergei at bay and won the round.

But to win a fight clearly, you have to be doing some pretty dominant stuff. Where was it? Charlo did some good stuff, so did Sergei. Generally that means close fight. To clearly win 7+ rounds in a fight, that's a high bar for me. Means you have to clearly win like 5 rounds, your opponent like 1, and then the other six are tight rounds. In that scenario, the guy who won 5 clean should clearly win.

Or you can have a fight where you actually clearly win 7+ rounds which is just very rare in a somewhat competitive fight. I saw this one as Charlo winning about 3-4 clean. Derevy doing the same. And then about 4-5 rounds that were tight.

I'll have to rewatch sometime, but when I scored it, I was surprised that the narrative wasn't matching what I was seeing. It is just very hard to get comfortable vs Derevy. You always look like you are in a fight. Just had it very close the whole way really.

[Boxing-1013]

115-113 type fight

but with Golovkin it was ‘went life and death’, but for Charlo ‘clear, solid win’. NSB is a special place

laughable really. I think Charlo did slightly better, but you wouldn’t be mad if Chenko was given the win by the judges

this was Charlos first and only challenge at middleweight, a division he’s been in for 3 years. Time to step up. Jacobs or Andrade would be good shouts. I’m guessing Golovkin/Murata are signed for December

GGG news has been silent lately. At 39, you have to wonder what his future plans are.

Yeah man I just didn't see a blowout. And that's not a knock on Charlo. All I wanted to see, is if he would be at least competitive with Derevy, which I expected to the case, and he was. He showed he was capable of competing against the top level at MW with that fight.

But yes his other fights at 160 are really poor. Supposedly all these guys are being ducked but that doesn't really make sense. Can't have 5 different boogeymen at one division.

[Tails]

Not a blowout by any means but Jermall won that fight by a sizeable margin. More than any other fighter has against Sergiy so far.

That said Sergiy has had some tough fights and is likely on the decline so that factors in to a degree but overall solid performance from Charlo and it is good that he some resistance from Sergiy. Will likely get him to work on some things before his next step up, hopefully.