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  • #61
    Originally posted by macmike100 View Post
    You all can say this or say that but what in the heck was in Alvarez's gloves to do that? If it's just power, it's very surprising power. Makes me wonder what keeps his hands from breaking with such power. He is truly a big puncher with power if everything is up and up. If so, he's a great fighter. Or do English fighters just have weak faces? On to Plant.
    Have you seen the leverage he gets on his hooks and uppercuts? every punch he throws is a accurate power punch.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JonDelPrado View Post
      Shout out to all the trolls who said Canelo wasn’t a devastating puncher. Wishing Saunders a full recovery, credit to him, it was absolutely the right call not to continue
      Couldn't agree more
      Last edited by HeyDeebo!; 05-09-2021, 09:24 PM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

        Look at his career the last few years. Dude really wasn't planning on doing much after the Canelo fight anyways. He got his one big payday he was looking for and now he's likely to walk away in a year or so. Saunders is known to be getting out of shape in between camps and was content on fighting inferior competition for years. He's not going to get motivated all of a sudden and try to get back to the top. Probably will look for one marquee fight and that's it, win or lose.
        I don't know man, I think this could be the injection (no pun intended) of motivation he needs for his career.. a lot of ppl who aren't clenelo dick riders had him either slightly up on the cards or drawing.. yea eventually nelo caught him but he had him hitting air and was landing on him pretty frequently although with no real power but I think his pride will make him try climb back up and push for a rematch, I very much doubt he could win, it will probs be the same outcome but maybe in the championship rounds or even make it to a decision which in everyone else's minds would be really close but on the judges cards would be wide as f, as too many ppl have vested interest in nelo winning in boxing to not give him the decision in close fights

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        • #64
          Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post

          Honestly, nothing about his career says that he will come back from this loss motivated to get back to the top. Fair point on he was maybe looking forward to a Canelo rematch and another pay day. But do I see him trying to fight the likes of Ryder or Morrell to get back in the title hunt? Nah.
          Idk why he wouldn't if he wants to & can continue fighting. It tends to be easier to get back into a title when you've had a title before anyway. But idk about Ryder or Morrell either. BJS can make UK friendly fights for years to come. Besides the obvious Fury vs AJ & Khan vs Brook fights, BJS vs Eubank Jr II is maybe the most wanted all UK fight fans wanna see. There are plenty of "Prizefighting" type fights for him regardless of the title situation if he were to wanna take that route.

          Again doe I guess my main point is I'd be surprised if a 31 year old guy who's been at the tip top of 2 divisions now, without being #1, never fights again cuz he lost for the first time. I suspect there is too much competitive spirit to go out on a L & too much opportunity for more money doing the only thing he's ever did on the table still. Granted there isn't likely to be another Canelo sized check, but there is 100% millions of dollars on the table for him still. Him being out of shape for fights he didn't care about doesn't imply to me he doesn't wanna fight it implies to me he's not excited by the fights he was getting while waiting to cash his Canelo ticket in. I think his first L could alter his whole mindset with motivation or other things. But yea it could also make him realize he doesn't wanna do this anymore & he does hang them up. But of the two options the least likely one is we've seen the last of BJS in the ring...assume he can fight again cuz some have suggested this injury could end his career or put long term quality of life risks on him if he fights again.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

            Idk why he wouldn't if he wants to & can continue fighting. It tends to be easier to get back into a title when you've had a title before anyway. But idk about Ryder or Morrell either. BJS can make UK friendly fights for years to come. Besides the obvious Fury vs AJ & Khan vs Brook fights, BJS vs Eubank Jr II is maybe the most wanted all UK fight fans wanna see. There are plenty of "Prizefighting" type fights for him regardless of the title situation if he were to wanna take that route.

            Again doe I guess my main point is I'd be surprised if a 31 year old guy who's been at the tip top of 2 divisions now, without being #1, never fights again cuz he lost for the first time. I suspect there is too much competitive spirit to go out on a L & too much opportunity for more money doing the only thing he's ever did on the table still. Granted there isn't likely to be another Canelo sized check, but there is 100% millions of dollars on the table for him still. Him being out of shape for fights he didn't care about doesn't imply to me he doesn't wanna fight it implies to me he's not excited by the fights he was getting while waiting to cash his Canelo ticket in. I think his first L could alter his whole mindset with motivation or other things. But yea it could also make him realize he doesn't wanna do this anymore & he does hang them up. But of the two options the least likely one is we've seen the last of BJS in the ring...assume he can fight again cuz some have suggested this injury could end his career or put long term quality of life risks on him if he fights again.
            I'm not saying he won't fight again. I think he does continue on but not for long. He hasn't even made any attempt to get any big fights after Lemieux minus when he tested positive vs Andrade. Dude just was living his best life and blowing up to HW in between fights. Why would anyone do that in their prime if they were serious about their career? He was waiting for the Canelo lotto ticket and he ended up getting it. Should be well off for a while after this fight....Can return in like 9 months, get a tune up win and then maybe one more decent fight and think that will be it. Canelo will likely have all four belts by September and then he will start vacating but you will have to go against some solid fighter to get your hands on a belt. Don't see BJS being able to get a title back.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by I have no ears View Post

              I don't know man, I think this could be the injection (no pun intended) of motivation he needs for his career.. a lot of ppl who aren't clenelo dick riders had him either slightly up on the cards or drawing.. yea eventually nelo caught him but he had him hitting air and was landing on him pretty frequently although with no real power but I think his pride will make him try climb back up and push for a rematch, I very much doubt he could win, it will probs be the same outcome but maybe in the championship rounds or even make it to a decision which in everyone else's minds would be really close but on the judges cards would be wide as f, as too many ppl have vested interest in nelo winning in boxing to not give him the decision in close fights
              He's never getting a rematch again. Canelo only has so many fights left and he's not rematching BJS and no one is calling for it. Good chance that Canelo will be at LHW this time next year anyways.

              BJS had his chance and got stopped. No shame in that but he can forget getting Canelo in the ring again.

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              • #67
                That’s what his ***** ass gets for being such an ass hole... got what he phucking deserved
                Patsfan bri likes this.

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                • #68
                  He won’t be out for a long time , he will be out for good , he’s made his money and this were a cash out , guys like him do not have the desire to come back from adversity and defeats like that .. he’s been chasing the cash out for years . What’s he gonna do ? He don’t sell tickets ? He’s not media friendly and he won’t after chasing and earning his biggest purse come back for a lot less money and work his way up , forget all this crap “ I’ll fight for glory and for nothing “ ... no he’s retired as of Saturday night

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                    His corner pulled him out. Definitely the right thing to do.

                    Dubois' corner didn't. They put a young man into a position where he had to take a knee and quit.

                    I hope Dubois' watched that and thought about his corner, rather than the comments by Billy Joe.
                    Look closely, BJS was saying he couldn't go on. They are making it seem like it was his corner but BJS was telling them he couldn't see and that there was something wrong and he couldn't continue. Why would anyone believe that BJS would try to convince his corner to continue. Especially now knowing how grave his injuries were.

                    Medically explained here: https://youtu.be/cEshBdFqsg4
                    Last edited by ReggieKray; 05-10-2021, 06:38 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by macmike100 View Post
                      You all can say this or say that but what in the heck was in Alvarez's gloves to do that? If it's just power, it's very surprising power. Makes me wonder what keeps his hands from breaking with such power. He is truly a big puncher with power if everything is up and up. If so, he's a great fighter. Or do English fighters just have weak faces? On to Plant.
                      I think Canelo's punch was a constant in this. I think the real issue was the stupid angle BJS put himself into by swinging his face straight down into Canelo's knuckle and where he could not see it coming. It's also important to note that Zygomatic bone injuries are common and happen in all weight classes. Naoya Inoue injured his a couple of fights ago at Bantam weight.

                      The Zygomatic bone is the most injury prone on the face and especially if you are stupidity putting your face in a horrible angle to take a full on uppercut at full force.


                      Here is a medical video that shows you some details of BJS injury: https://youtu.be/cEshBdFqsg4

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