Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Ryan Garcia On Different Level Than Haney; He Needs To Build Profile, Resume

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  • SUBZER0ED
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    #31
    Originally posted by NachoMan

    What does Haney's manufactured tile mean exactly? Nothing, as proven by the fact that HE is chasing a contender. I think these two are relatively equal in terms of ability (Garcia has proven more tbh), but their marketing profiles aren't anywhere near close. Garcia is a much bigger star. Haney will get him a year or so down the road and he and his family will be very glad about the wait.
    The point isn't how Haney got a belt, but that he has one. If Garcia is such a badass, why not just fight Haney, kick his ass and become a REAL star? Oscar Saying that Haney needs to build his resume in order to get a fight with Garcia looks like a duck. And as for the money, waiting for these two to become PPV stars before we see them fight each other is bad for boxing.

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    • PeepeePoopooMan
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      #32
      Originally posted by Corelone

      I don't think much of either one of them at this point. Ryan can't box and Haney lacks power. If Ryan learns to bob and weave, I'll give him more credit, but Haney will never grow more power. Teo boxes better than Ryan and puts Haneys power to shame.
      I agree with that. I think ryan needs to work on his feet movement as well

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      • BeLikeWater
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        #33
        The problem with Haney is that he has a significantly smaller fanbase than Garcia does. It doesnt really make sense for Garcia to take on a fighter like Haney who is very risky for Garcia. He would make equal money fighting guys like Cambell and the like. I can see why it would make sense for Haney though, to take on a risky fighter like Garcia would be better than remaining stagnant like he has financially speaking.I just dont see what benefit Garcia has in risking a fight with Haney. I say keep the course and fight like 5 more top 10 guys to continue building his skills and brand, THEN cash in on a title fight. Respect to Teofimo for going straight to the top guy but in the end, he didnt really make the money he should have, his own promoter doesnt want to pay him what he deserves, AND he is stuck paying all the fees for holding on to those worthless belts. I dont see the profit there.

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          #34
          Oscar is a smart promoter. At the end of the day, getting a win against undefeated Haney would be a big green check on Garcia's resume. Problem is, Haney is more dangerous than Fortuna even though I don't rate Haney. Haney is one big asterisk in a lot of ways, we do know that Garcia almost ended up in a pine box over a left hook from a over-glorified club fighter. Can Haney reproduce that hook, very possibly yes. Garcia is Oscar's new golden egg, and a cracked golden egg at that, no way in hell he puts that egg at risk before he can make some real money on it.

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #35
            Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan
            Lmao all the bums on haneys nuts. Haney is overrated trash with an email belt. Oscar nailed it. Haney is a nobody with a belt that nobody acknowledges. Fortuna is more proven than haney ffs
            Not so overrated that Garcia and Oscar are desperately trying to justify ducking the fight. And here's you, the Mexican American, trying to justify it too. Haha.

            I have no idea why people are so quick to humiliate and degrade themselves. But you dudes seem to really like it over in North America.

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            • El Más Loco
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              #36
              Originally posted by ramses07
              Ehh it’s called prize fighting

              and honestly not that big of a deal


              haney will make way more fighting Ryan in 2 -3 years than fighting him now

              just keep winning and talking
              This comment right here is why boxing is in the current state its in. Promoters want to "marinate" every fight......and then convince fans to parrot the same sentiment. This is boxing not steak.....fights dont need marinating. Not a mma fan but UFC is enough proof of this.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                Not so overrated that Garcia and Oscar are desperately trying to justify ducking the fight. And here's you, the Mexican American, trying to justify it too. Haha.

                I have no idea why people are so quick to humiliate and degrade themselves. But you dudes seem to really like it over in North America.
                Remind me again when the last time a champ (email champ at that) was so desperate that hes begging for a fight with a non title holder?
                haney is trash even with a gold belt. Whats the saying "you can polish a turd but its still a turd"? Well thats haney lmfao

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                • ramses07
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by El Más Loco

                  This comment right here is why boxing is in the current state its in. Promoters want to "marinate" every fight......and then convince fans to parrot the same sentiment. This is boxing not steak.....fights dont need marinating. Not a mma fan but UFC is enough proof of this.
                  Lol bro this has been happening since boxing has been around

                  When Ryan is an established superstar let him fight whomever like cotto, dlh etc

                  but that kid still needs building up; he’s like 22

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                  • just the facts
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan

                    Remind me again when the last time a champ (email champ at that) was so desperate that hes begging for a fight with a non title holder?
                    haney is trash even with a gold belt. Whats the saying "you can polish a turd but its still a turd"? Well thats haney lmfao
                    That's some man crush you got going on there. Did you put on your pink leotards before jerking it to your favorite sweaty Garcia poster today?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by PeepeePoopooMan

                      Remind me again when the last time a champ (email champ at that) was so desperate that hes begging for a fight with a non title holder?
                      haney is trash even with a gold belt. Whats the saying "you can polish a turd but its still a turd"? Well thats haney lmfao

                      For Haney to be such an easy touch Ryan and Loma sure avoided him like the plague.

                      Not his fault guys are truly tucking their nuts to avoid a fight.

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