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  • #21
    He fought a Youtuber, a small NBA player and then specifically cherry picked the worst striker in UFC history so he could say he KO'd a UFC guy. He does have a bit of athleticism and natural ability but lets not get carried away.

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    • #22
      I can't stand some of the panto at matchroom let alone this shlt.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
        Yes he is a Youtuber, but he is also a boxer.
        He is a legitimate boxer. Lets stop referring to him like he is just your average content creator that dabbles a little in the sport or only trains when he has a fight lined up.
        How can he be a "legitimate boxer", without boxing an actual boxer?

        Fighting a 5"6 retired NBA player, and a retired UFC guy who could never strike to begin with, doesn't make him an actual boxer. Could be become one? Sure. Absolutely. But you're literally throwing the cart before the horse here.

        It's okay to be excited by the prospect of him. It's not okay to pretend he's done something before he actually has.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by KillaCamNZ View Post

          How can he be a "legitimate boxer", without boxing an actual boxer?

          Fighting a 5"6 retired NBA player, and a retired UFC guy who could never strike to begin with, doesn't make him an actual boxer. Could be become one? Sure. Absolutely. But you're literally throwing the cart before the horse here.

          It's okay to be excited by the prospect of him. It's not okay to pretend he's done something before he actually has.

          This, even when its typical for prospects to be carefully managed their first few years to rack up some wins and experience.... they still proved themselves in amateur tournaments.

          Jake Paul has had 4 fights his entire life and every single one of them was against someone who never boxed before... ever. Every single one of them were significantly smaller than him. When he fought smaller guys of his own age, they were youtubers with less training time than him. When he fought former pro athletes they were both 10+ years older in their mid 30s.

          Jake would get lit up if he entered an amateur tournament. He throws the same combinations over and over but it works when he fights inexperienced guys who will walk straight into them. He has trained for 3 years on how to throw some punches so he has a massive advantage over untrained smaller and older men he is fighting.

          Could you imagine what would happen if Jake fought a cruiserweight in their 20s with a few pro fights and amateur experience? They would see him throwing the same overhand right all the time side step and counter him and it would be lights out when a guy his size lands on him.
          Last edited by elfag; 04-18-2021, 03:41 PM.
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          • #25
            100%

            dude has had four(?) fights, zero amateur bouts. All the resources in the world can’t make up for lack of athletic talent; Paul is clearly a natural athlete and that has the ability to excel at boxing.

            “Let’s see him do this against a real boxer” is kind of a silly argument considering he is green as **** himself. Line him up against the type of guys blue-chip prospects fight in their fourth fight and you’d see the same thing we saw last night.

            Dude is the real deal, and him building his career in his own lane is fine.

            For a valid comparison, I would pick him to KO Omar Chavez, another rich kid who has been training with all the resources in the world for 20 years, if they were in a similar weight class and fought tomorrow. What does that tell you?
            Last edited by paulf; 04-18-2021, 03:40 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by paulf View Post
              100%

              dude has had four(?) fights, zero amateur bouts. All the resources in the world can’t make up for lack of athletic talent; Paul is clearly a natural athlete and that has the ability to excel at boxing.

              “Let’s see him do this against a real boxer” is kind of a silly argument considering he is green as **** himself. Line him up against the type of guys blue-chip prospects fight in their fourth fight and you’d see the same thing we saw last night.

              Dude is the real deal, and him building his career in his own lane is fine.

              For a valid comparison, I would pick him to KO Omar Chavez, another rich kid who has been training with all the resources in the world for 20 years, if they were in a similar weight class and fought tomorrow. What does that tell you?
              If he fights and does ok even if he loses against another pro with about 4 or 5 fights preferably also unbeaten, ok then, he is a pro boxer but now he is just some kind of actor who seems to like boxing.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by paulf View Post
                100%

                dude has had four(?) fights, zero amateur bouts. All the resources in the world can’t make up for lack of athletic talent; Paul is clearly a natural athlete and that has the ability to excel at boxing.

                “Let’s see him do this against a real boxer” is kind of a silly argument considering he is green as **** himself. Line him up against the type of guys blue-chip prospects fight in their fourth fight and you’d see the same thing we saw last night.

                Dude is the real deal, and him building his career in his own lane is fine.

                For a valid comparison, I would pick him to KO Omar Chavez, another rich kid who has been training with all the resources in the world for 20 years, if they were in a similar weight class and fought tomorrow. What does that tell you?

                The "real deal" and "ability to excel at boxing" lmao

                He is 24, he isnt going anywhere. All the guys who "started late" all had an amateur background. The guys who had no amateur background when pro as teenagers and were fighting grown men.

                How much experience does he really gain from fighting mid 30s retired basketball players who are 20 pounds lighter than him.

                Prospects are fighting actual boxers. Hand selected sure but actual boxers. If Jake "could" beat them, then why after 3 years has he yet to fight one?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post

                  If he fights and does ok even if he loses against another pro with about 4 or 5 fights preferably also unbeaten, ok then, he is a pro boxer but now he is just some kind of actor who seems to like boxing.

                  Charlie Zelenoff was a pro boxer too. As was Andrew Hartley. They will give a license to anyone who can pass a physical and that is the problem. Eventually someone will get hurt and the government will go after boxing as a sport not just "youtube boxers"

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by LeOoze View Post
                    I agree that he's putting in work. But put him in a legit top 20 fighter in his weight class and he'd get destroyed. Especially in cruiser.

                    lmao at people even talking top 20

                    he would get sparked out by a random journeyman, especially one his size, he is fighting not only completely inexperienced guys, but guys who are like 168 max if they were actually in shape

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                    • #30
                      Who's on his resume ?

                      He's a sideshow ''attraction'' when nothing else is going on.

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