On the Whole, Are American Boxing "Fans" The Worst Fans?

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  • Mmann2e
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ray*
    I only notice this over the last recent years, i mean these guys come up with stuffs like "Eurobum" and this are prominent posters on here, only TWO weeks ago another prominent boxer said if one of Hearn boxer loses then its the end for Hearn and that boxer, and i was like WTF? Why are you guys stuck on this undefeated record? Like MMA doesn't care, younger brits with undefeated records are fighting each other, i gave examples of those. And i remember saying this is why american boxers don't want to fight each other unless its on PPV for more money, hence why we wouldn't see Ortiz v Ennis, hence why we wouldn't see Garcia v Haney, hence why we haven't seen Bud/Spence or Plant/Benavidez.
    It's their undefeated record lol it's that many of them know its over once they lose. James Kirkland lost and is now only brought to fights he can't win and I'm happy to watch him get his face caved along with Curtis Stevens. It also how you lose, lose like Wilder and the public doesn't forget lose like Kovalev vs Ward the first time and world gives a second chance.

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    • gully7
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      #22
      American boxing fans are an embarrassment, there can be a good chess match type of fight and after 3 rounds you hear boos from the crowd. I think Mexicans are guilty of it too.

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      • Mmann2e
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        #23
        Originally posted by gully7
        American boxing fans are an embarrassment, there can be a good chess match type of fight and after 3 rounds you hear boos from the crowd. I think Mexicans are guilty of it too.
        That's true Americans have no appreciation what's going although you've answered why their fighters fail and can't live up to their standards

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #24
          I can't go beyond my experience of boxing forums and I ain't one to generalise but some of the best and most knowlegable posters I know are from the US... as are some of the most annoying and narrow minded.

          If I have a more general observation it's that on average US posters (with some very notable exceptions) tend to be more dismissive of and less knowlegable about the global boxing scene, but I can fully appreciate why. It also kinda takes a different level of commitment to be a serious boxing fan from anywhere else in the world since you gotta be willing to watch the fights at ****** hours of the night or morning on the regular.

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          • Eff Pandas
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            #25
            Originally posted by Keysandboxing
            I like Jaron Ennis and I think he's extremely talented, but he's just now stepping up in competition, after 27 fights against bums.
            I'd argue Boots is just now GETTING his chance to step up more than he made some decision to step up finally.

            Connections matter to & Boots hasn't completely aligned with a platform/major promoter yet & only recently has gotten with PBC as his management situation gets sorted out legally. So that surely slowed his progress.

            I'd also say age matters more than fights. Boots had his step up fight at 23. Errol probably didn't have a step up fight til CVH at age 25. Errol didn't fight for a title til he was 27. I'd bet 90% of my net worth, so like $56, Boots is younger than 27 when he fights his first title fight barring a tragic accident or him completely losing his talent somehow.

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            • JakeTheBoxer
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              #26
              Only casuals write off the guy because of one loss.

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              • nubianpiye
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                #27
                Originally posted by Keysandboxing
                I realized this recently, that American fans are the "fakest". I'm likely not talking about you reading this, but the more uneducated American fans. As soon as a fighter loses, they get thrown away and forgotten. Most recently, American fans (including myself) did this to Lomachenko, he's a lost cause now, at least to the average American boxing fan. We can't lie, we have all done this to some fighter within the last decade or so. Most of us just hop off the bandwagon once a fighter loses, and I can admit I've done this myself. This has to stop, if we want the young up and coming fighters to actually fight each other. I like Jaron Ennis and I think he's extremely talented, but he's just now stepping up in competition, after 27 fights against bums. 27 fights against unranked fighters is awful. We can compare that to someone like Spence who has the same amount of fights but has clearly fought a much higher level of competition. My point in bring Ennis up is, we praise a fighter 0 so bad, that it scares all of these fighters from wanting to step up in competition and fight their peers.

                Yes, I think American fans are the most fake, as Filipino, UK, Irish, Mexican/Hispanic fans don't drop their favorite fighter once they lose, they continue to support them. I'd bet that if Leo Santa Cruz came back right now and fought some low tier guy, all of his Mexican fans would come out in flocks, even though he just got KO'd by Tank. Just my thoughts.
                Boxing is also popular in most countries other than America TES American fans are the worst i agree 100%

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                • DaNeutral.
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                  #28
                  American Boxing fans seem to really struggle to credit any fighter that isnt American and give American fighters extra credit just for being American. American fight fans have a superiority complex.

                  And then American Boxers and their promoters are scared to lose because American Boxing fans need their fighters to be unbeatable like Floyd, as soon as they may not be the very best then they tend to throw them away and stop supporting them.

                  To be fair that is very much a generalisation and there are lots of true Boxing fans that understand fighters lose and there are proper fans who will stick by a fighter through thick and thin. But there is a large contingent of sports fans who have the "IF YOU AIN'T 1ST YOU'RE LAST" mentality.

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Keysandboxing
                    I realized this recently
                    You do know boxing, as do most sports, go through America, yes ?

                    Fu ck soccer

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                    • Mmann2e
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      American Boxing fans seem to really struggle to credit any fighter that isnt American and give American fighters extra credit just for being American. American fight fans have a superiority complex.

                      And then American Boxers and their promoters are scared to lose because American Boxing fans need their fighters to be unbeatable like Floyd, as soon as they may not be the very best then they tend to throw them away and stop supporting them.

                      To be fair that is very much a generalisation and there are lots of true Boxing fans that understand fighters lose and there are proper fans who will stick by a fighter through thick and thin. But there is a large contingent of sports fans who have the "IF YOU AIN'T 1ST YOU'RE LAST" mentality.
                      No one in the United States cares about these fighter losing they're prizefighters. They knew the risk signing the contract that if they loss a comeback would be difficult. So those fighter better be at there best because one loss and the gravy train stops as people have more important things to do than support some idiot who's best skills is getting punched in the head and punching someone else for a living. Floyd understood the public hatred gets him more money why do you think he posted all that bull****? For public consumption.

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