On the Whole, Are American Boxing "Fans" The Worst Fans?

[Keysandboxing]

I realized this recently, that American fans are the "fakest". I'm likely not talking about you reading this, but the more uneducated American fans. As soon as a fighter loses, they get thrown away and forgotten. Most recently, American fans (including myself) did this to Lomachenko, he's a lost cause now, at least to the average American boxing fan. We can't lie, we have all done this to some fighter within the last decade or so. Most of us just hop off the bandwagon once a fighter loses, and I can admit I've done this myself. This has to stop, if we want the young up and coming fighters to actually fight each other. I like Jaron Ennis and I think he's extremely talented, but he's just now stepping up in competition, after 27 fights against bums. 27 fights against unranked fighters is awful. We can compare that to someone like Spence who has the same amount of fights but has clearly fought a much higher level of competition. My point in bring Ennis up is, we praise a fighter 0 so bad, that it scares all of these fighters from wanting to step up in competition and fight their peers.

Yes, I think American fans are the most fake, as Filipino, UK, Irish, Mexican/Hispanic fans don't drop their favorite fighter once they lose, they continue to support them. I'd bet that if Leo Santa Cruz came back right now and fought some low tier guy, all of his Mexican fans would come out in flocks, even though he just got KO'd by Tank. Just my thoughts.

[The Big Dunn]

Good post. I think your point only applies to casual fans. IMO, that is due to the way the networks market fighters.

American sports fans do put a premium on an undefeated record and wins/losses. That is because its the least complicated way to determine if a team/fighter is really good-if he/she hasn't lost or has a really good winning percentage. The more sophisticated and knowledgeable fans do a deeper analysis which is to be expected.

I think what happened with Loma is something different. His undefeated record was used by some of his fans to suggest he was on the level or had exceeded the level of a few of the most recent ATG's and HOF'ers. When he lost, it wasn't that he became a lost cause (he hasn't even fought since so its hard to make the claim he's a lost cause yet IMO) it's that his loss made clear that many had prematurely elevated him to a level he his achievements hadn't warranted.

There is also another really important aspect you touch on. the fans you talk about that stay loyal do so because they like the fighter for who he is. A loss doesn't affect that. With Loma, There were some who didn't seem to like him because he was a great fighter but for something else. His loss means he can no longer be used for those people's agenda. So they just leave him and move on to the next guy-until that guy loses.

We see this with some fans of every type and kind of fighter. Wilder was another example of fans that suddenly left him hanging after he lost to Fury.

[REDEEMER]

It’s just a generation thing passed down and misconstrues what boxing really is and that’s fighters take losses .

I remember as soon as Morrison lost he was a bum, became champion or held a version of the title. Only stopped 3 times and the casual fans who remember him call him the great white hope .

Cooney as well after Holmes knocked him out he was a glass chinned bum even though it was a tough fight and he hurt Holmes and only stopped by ATG fighters .

Being American I think we hold an unrealistic view and today it’s the worst fan base by far it’s ever been . Look at the Whyte loss to Povetkin and A.J loss to Ruiz to see how delusional they are on here alone . We even got guys still calling Wilder exceptional just yesterday , many still think the fight was a draw with Fury in the first one ? Ha

[Marchegiano]

Nah, we don't make threads crying about Euros everyday.

[REDEEMER]

Nah, we don't make threads crying about Euros everyday.

Most on here cry about Hearn ,so much the forum could have its own section on Eddie Hearn to filter out the spam .

[Marchegiano]

Most on here cry about Hearn ,so much the forum could have its own section on Eddie Hearn to filter out the spam .

And somehow still manage to separate Hearn from Englishmen.

Plenty of anti-Hearn threads and posts, agreed and hard agreed, but not so much of that translates to casting shade on the entire nation. Hearn has his followers and haters and that has **** all to do with say Taylor or any other UK fella now associated with Hearn....I dunno an Englisman right off hand with no connection to Eddie so I went Taylor and whole UK.

Conversely, yeah, plenty are just PBC haters, just Wilder haters etc. They keep it proper. This ain't that. Obviously, this is the entire American fan base. What you're apart of and should be considered exception to...or to say that differently, y'all agreeing ought to be what stops this and it doesn't.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Other countries have less to celebrate, so all boxing champions from their country are legends.

There are too many athletes here, so American fans don’t care about anyone unless they’re arguably the best ever.

[Dakuwaqa]

American fans are terrible. So are Brits. Americans fans are a bunch of race obsessed morons who usually hate on their own fighters especially if they have different colour skinny skin skins.

British fans are completely delusional, but love all fighters equally even if they’re complete rubbish.

[Keysandboxing]

Good post. I think your point only applies to casual fans. IMO, that is due to the way the networks market fighters.

American sports fans do put a premium on an undefeated record and wins/losses. That is because its the least complicated way to determine if a team/fighter is really good-if he/she hasn't lost or has a really good winning percentage. The more sophisticated and knowledgeable fans do a deeper analysis which is to be expected.

I think what happened with Loma is something different. His undefeated record was used by some of his fans to suggest he was on the level or had exceeded the level of a few of the most recent ATG's and HOF'ers. When he lost, it wasn't that he became a lost cause (he hasn't even fought since so its hard to make the claim he's a lost cause yet IMO) it's that his loss made clear that many had prematurely elevated him to a level he his achievements hadn't warranted.

There is also another really important aspect you touch on. the fans you talk about that stay loyal do so because they like the fighter for who he is. A loss doesn't affect that. With Loma, There were some who didn't seem to like him because he was a great fighter but for something else. His loss means he can no longer be used for those people's agenda. So they just leave him and move on to the next guy-until that guy loses.

We see this with some fans of every type and kind of fighter. Wilder was another example of fans that suddenly left him hanging after he lost to Fury.

I agree, most of the bandwagoners are casuals who can only determine a fighters skill or greatness is by their 0, like you said it's the easiest way to do so. But, I do think that some of the bandwagoners are educated boxing fans. I've seen guys on the forum talk about Lomachenko before the Teofimo fight as a ATG, and someone even said that Lomachenko could beat Prime Mayweather, which is ridiculous. Keep in mind, I still acknowledge the fact that these are educated fans, to an extent. After Loma's loss to Teo, then I hear that "Hes washed up, he was never that good since he lost to Salido and Teo, etc." This is what I mean, even some educated American fans switch sides quickly. You can look on the forum right now, nobody is talking about Lomachenko anymore, he's no longer a praised fighter like before, that is also what I mean by fickle. Anyways, thanks for the response!

[Keysandboxing]

American fans are terrible. So are Brits. Americans fans are a bunch of race obsessed morons who usually hate on their own fighters especially if they have different colour skinny skin skins.

British fans are completely delusional, but love all fighters equally even if they’re complete rubbish.

I definitely won't go as far as to say "race obsessed morons" cause we aren't, but I do appreciate the Brit's mentality of supporting everyone. I'd rather be surrounded in diehard fans than fickles ones.