Comments Thread For: Hearn Will Make Decision on New UK Broadcast Deal Within Two Weeks

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If it makes you feel better to think I clearly don't understand, go for it.

However, the pertinent facts are there in the link. Your first fact is not accurate and your second bullet point goes to demonstrates the folly of your logic. We are looking for a solution that satisfies the evidence of a sequence of negative tests and one sole urine sample with trace metabolites. The various bodies contend the evidence is consistent with contamination. Yet you conclude he must have ingested the substance even though the contamination solution at the very least is just as viable (and I would contend actually fits the available evidence better).

But, as I say, you are arguing up a blind alley. It's neither here nor there with regard to Hearn signing or not signing with Sky.

You evidently don’t understand it fully though, you’re essentially just regurgitating the same stuff Hearn, Sky, the BBBofC etc have said to try and clear the name of a fighter who represents them. To think Whyte is “completely innocent” is beyond delusional tbh.

What facts are presented in the link exactly?

If you are actually educated about the subject matter it’s clear Whyte is in now way “completely innocent”. The other tests prove nothing! D-Bol can leave your system within 4-6 hours. Look at how many tests the cyclists used to pass, or the Russian athletes regularly passed before Rodchenkov blew the whistle. You clearly have no real concept of how cycles work if you think the other tests prove anything besides he hadn’t ingested a banned substance within 4-6 hours of the said tests.

Admittedly it’s a complex subject, I’m not expecting you to know the ins and outs but do not assume the guy is “completely innocent” when there’s a mountain of evidence to suggest the opposite. Even if it was contamination, which I highly doubt, Whyte is still guilty of putting the D-Bol into his body- as I said Whyte must’ve ingested the substance so that still makes him, at the very least, partly guilty whether it was intentional or not.

You’re free to believe Whyte’s circumstantial excuses if you please, that’s not my issue. My main issue was you said Whyte was “completely innocent” surely you can’t stand by that.

[TMLT87]

DAZN definitely
not sure about the Channel 5 situation
think BBC may be looking at boxing again soon
Eurosport possibly ?

BBC, ITV, 5 would be very interesting,definitely good for exposure, but they're not gonna be giving away AJ fights on there, sadly. Eurosport is too small surely? as for DAZN, it seems too good to be true if they give their cards to the UK audience for 1.99 a month, its one thing to do it at that price point internationally because the demand is lower.

[Earl-Hickey]

He will obviously stay with Sky, BT are signed into an excuse Frank Wazza deal where he delivers them 1 fury fight every 18 months, outside of them nobody will match sky's spending power.

[Earl-Hickey]

BBC, ITV, 5 would be very interesting,definitely good for exposure, but they're not gonna be giving away AJ fights on there, sadly. Eurosport is too small surely? as for DAZN, it seems too good to be true if they give their cards to the UK audience for 1.99 a month, its one thing to do it at that price point internationally because the demand is lower.

If DAZN got matchroom, AJ fights would still be on PPV.

It's like in New Zealand Joseph Parker fights are excluded from DAZN and are 30 bucks on sky ppv

The B Listers would be on DAZN

[observer]

Read through the thread.

I have been following boxing for over 20 years. I do not recall this amount of hate towards a promoter.

What makes Hearn so special? Is this a domestic British thing? People are talking about him the same way they talk about fighters they hate.

Is it just because he is clearly the most dominant promoter in the UK?

[TMLT87]

If DAZN got matchroom, AJ fights would still be on PPV.

It's like in New Zealand Joseph Parker fights are excluded from DAZN and are 30 bucks on sky ppv

The B Listers would be on DAZN

That would be bad imo. If you're gonna keep traditional PPV then at least allow the B listers to get some decent exposure on a proper network so they can potentially grow their star power instead of putting them on an app.

[EnglishOxide]

I think if he goes full time DAZN then it's got to be on the assurance that they acquire some big UK rights to other sports soon. Having his fighters full time on DAZN could get costly considering the app still isn't that well known over here. AJ and Whyte require big paydays.

I'd like to see him go ITV, that would bring huge exposure to boxing, and you still have the PPV option. Matchroom already work with them for the darts I think anyway.

[Oldskoolg]

To be the biggest in any sport, a minimum requirement is to actually be involved on some kind of regular basis. Like it or not, Canelo is the current face of the sport.

Arguments about the state of the sport is another discussion entirely. There is no question that boxing was once massive and is now a shadow of its former self; I think we would all agree on that, so I don't see the point in dragging it into the discussion.

The news story is about Matchroom's future with Sky. Someone brought up a kind of salty, how's the American takeover going, hurgh, hurgh, hurgh... and the answer was: quite well, given Matchroom has signed the biggest boxer in the sport.

Do you see how an argument of 'boxing is sick and stale' doesn't play a part in this discussion?

Nor does the attempt of throwing the numbers of the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson co-headline with Tyson/RJJ into the mix.

My good man, if you can’t see how removing boxing from free air waves has hurt the sport and the app based approach killing it then I don’t know if we can meet half way on this. I DO NOT see a future of the sport of it goes to the app based approach.

[Oldskoolg]

That would be bad imo. If you're gonna keep traditional PPV then at least allow the B listers to get some decent exposure on a proper network so they can potentially grow their star power instead of putting them on an app.

^^^^ this^^^^^

[Oldskoolg]

I think if he goes full time DAZN then it's got to be on the assurance that they acquire some big UK rights to other sports soon. Having his fighters full time on DAZN could get costly considering the app still isn't that well known over here. AJ and Whyte require big paydays.

I'd like to see him go ITV, that would bring huge exposure to boxing, and you still have the PPV option. Matchroom already work with them for the darts I think anyway.

This is why it wasn’t a hit in the USA. It didn’t have any sports the yanks wanted to see. European football, darts, snooker, etc have no interest in the USA. It was sold on boxing alone. It had Bellator, but the interest for bellator wasn’t high enough to have to pay for it when American fans were already paying for the UFC pics or at the time getting it for free on FOX. Dayzin wasn’t ever able to get grid iron football, baseball, or basketball at the professional or university level....they would have had to secure some grand slam tennis tournaments, golf tournaments, or nascar. They sold themselves on boxing alone and vastly overrated the small American fan base for boxing