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  • MANNY67
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    #31
    I don’t know what exactly Hearn will do but my observation is he does stay with sky at least he’s shows are more exciting than Frank Warrens on bt , he needs to take risks with his fighters and put on more competitive fights and think about the fans not just his pockets

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    • techliam
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      #32
      Originally posted by TMLT87
      4 broadcasters have made offers? so Sky, presumably BT...who else is there even?
      DAZN definitely
      not sure about the Channel 5 situation
      think BBC may be looking at boxing again soon
      Eurosport possibly ?

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #33
        Originally posted by Monty Fisto

        The BBofC statement is firm and unambiguous http://bbbofc.com/content/ukad-dillian-whyte

        I'm not going to get into the ins and outs of it, because it's there in their statement. Take it up with them if you think you know more than the professionals.
        You clearly don’t understand the “ins and outs, so don’t want to get into it.

        The Board of Control statement proves nothing. Do you think Canelo is “completely innocent” too? How about various other athletes who used the older excuse in the book?- contamination.

        The only true facts are:

        -Whyte tested positive and failed a test for trace amounts of D-Bol.

        -D-Bol cannot be in produced internally so he must’ve ingested the substance by hook or by crook.

        -Any contamination theory is based on mere speculation. Yes trace amounts were consistent with contamination but they are also consistent with an athlete who had failed to flush/cycle the D-Bol out of their system.

        -Dillian also has a history with PED use and this was the second time he’s been caught, so it’s increasingly difficult to give him the benefit of doubt.

        If you are incredibly trustful or even gullible and you give Whyte ever benefit of doubt available, you can make a largely weak case that Whyte was innocent. However, looking at the facts it’s incredibly hard to believe he is. Personally, I’d be willing to bet my life he was guilty.

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        • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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          #34
          Originally posted by Monty Fisto
          Furthermore, you would surely admit that in a discussion thread regarding Hearn's decision to resign or not resign with a UK broadcaster, the question of Whyte's guilt or innocence is entirely beside the point.

          I stand by my point that there is something very pavlovian going on when we have a story like this and the immediate fallback talking point of Whyte's B sample turns up. As an on-point piece of discussion it's total fugazi. It is, however, an almost reflexive response for certain forum members to any mention of Eddie Hearn.
          I’m not criticising Hearn here though- I literally said I agree with you that he’s done a good job in his fight by fight deal with Canelo.

          I just took a major exception with you calling Whyte “completely innocent” as it’s nonsense.

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          • Oldskoolg
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            #35
            Originally posted by Monty Fisto

            How many times has he fought in the last 10 years?
            Once. And still pulled more than the so called
            biggest draw in the sport....who no one talks about. The bar is soooooo low these days for a sport that is currently as sick and stale as it has ever been. If Canelo is the face of boxing than boxing is in trouble.....and taking it off the air waves and putting it on an app is a good way to further damage it in the USA which I think I is what the EDL/BF/Yaxley-Lenon types want

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              #36
              This is a major, major decision that will shape UK boxing for the next decade or so, as the ramifications are enormous if Matchroom leaves Sky. Guess in the end it all depends on how much DAZN is willing to pony up. I'm thinking DAZN goes big and Matchroom jumps ship, which opens up the door for other groups to try to get in with Sky. Hearn's goal is global boxing domination and DAZN is severely lacking in other areas and this is their best chance at gaining large subscribers in the UK. Just feels like both sides will take the risk and fully buy into the other side here.

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              • asgarth
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                #37
                Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                where is the American network option? What are the viewer numbers for canelo’s fights? How many subscribers does dayzin have? Wasn’t “PPV dead”??? Wasn’t Edward supposed to have killed it? Wasn’t Edward suppose to have been able to sign all the PBC fighters? Canelo is about the least known sports “star” in the USA, and ONLY APPEALS TO ONE DEMOGRAPHIC. How is this an “American takeover” is even dayzin went to the PPV model while being an app? I swear you lot are so starved for American approval and attention that you’re embarrassing yourselves. Stop living vicariously through Edward Hearn.
                There is the obsessed resident Matchroom hater again. It is crazy how you post on every (no exaggeration) Hearn or Matchroom thread. It seems to be a personal thing, otherwise I cant understand the irrational hate.

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                • Rapscallion
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                  #38
                  "But he has his sights set of growing Matchroom’s power even more, saying he wants to make them boxing’s equivalent to the UFC." As I see it, if boxers wanted the UFC model, they'd sign with Dana White and the UFC. As they haven't, why would anybody believe that the boxers (and not Eddie Hearn) want the UFC equivalent?

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                  • Monty Fisto
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                    You clearly don’t understand the “ins and outs, so don’t want to get into it.

                    The Board of Control statement proves nothing. Do you think Canelo is “completely innocent” too? How about various other athletes who used the older excuse in the book?- contamination.

                    The only true facts are:

                    -Whyte tested positive and failed a test for trace amounts of D-Bol.

                    -D-Bol cannot be in produced internally so he must’ve ingested the substance by hook or by crook.

                    -Any contamination theory is based on mere speculation. Yes trace amounts were consistent with contamination but they are also consistent with an athlete who had failed to flush/cycle the D-Bol out of their system.

                    -Dillian also has a history with PED use and this was the second time he’s been caught, so it’s increasingly difficult to give him the benefit of doubt.

                    If you are incredibly trustful or even gullible and you give Whyte ever benefit of doubt available, you can make a largely weak case that Whyte was innocent. However, looking at the facts it’s incredibly hard to believe he is. Personally, I’d be willing to bet my life he was guilty.
                    If it makes you feel better to think I clearly don't understand, go for it.

                    However, the pertinent facts are there in the link. Your first fact is not accurate and your second bullet point goes to demonstrates the folly of your logic. We are looking for a solution that satisfies the evidence of a sequence of negative tests and one sole urine sample with trace metabolites. The various bodies contend the evidence is consistent with contamination. Yet you conclude he must have ingested the substance even though the contamination solution at the very least is just as viable (and I would contend actually fits the available evidence better).

                    But, as I say, you are arguing up a blind alley. It's neither here nor there with regard to Hearn signing or not signing with Sky.

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                    • Monty Fisto
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Oldskoolg

                      Once. And still pulled more than the so called
                      biggest draw in the sport....who no one talks about. The bar is soooooo low these days for a sport that is currently as sick and stale as it has ever been. If Canelo is the face of boxing than boxing is in trouble.....and taking it off the air waves and putting it on an app is a good way to further damage it in the USA which I think I is what the EDL/BF/Yaxley-Lenon types want
                      To be the biggest in any sport, a minimum requirement is to actually be involved on some kind of regular basis. Like it or not, Canelo is the current face of the sport.

                      Arguments about the state of the sport is another discussion entirely. There is no question that boxing was once massive and is now a shadow of its former self; I think we would all agree on that, so I don't see the point in dragging it into the discussion.

                      The news story is about Matchroom's future with Sky. Someone brought up a kind of salty, how's the American takeover going, hurgh, hurgh, hurgh... and the answer was: quite well, given Matchroom has signed the biggest boxer in the sport.

                      Do you see how an argument of 'boxing is sick and stale' doesn't play a part in this discussion?

                      Nor does the attempt of throwing the numbers of the Jake Paul/Nate Robinson co-headline with Tyson/RJJ into the mix.
                      Last edited by Monty Fisto; 04-04-2021, 11:25 PM.

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