Coppinger: Fury/Wilder Dispute Still Ongoing, Will Know More in the Next Few Weeks

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  • Deus
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    #31
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra

    What you're suggesting is that Fury do the honorable thing. Fury is not an honorable man so he won't do that. When Fury was at his lowest point in boxing it was Wilder who encouraged him and promised him a shot and Wilder kept his word. Fury on the other hand is a snake.
    Talking about honour when it comes to a situation involving Deontay Wilder is somewhat ironic considering Wilder has been doing his best to slander Fury just because he couldn't take the beating he got. Not much honour there and thus he certainly doesn't deserve any back.

    Let's not forget also that Wilder merely attempted to cherry pick Fury for an easy win when Fury was nowhere near back to his best too for that matter... he wasn't ever trying to do Fury a favour; he was trying to do himself a favour and fell flat on his face.

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    • El_Mero
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      #32
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra

      What you're suggesting is that Fury do the honorable thing. Fury is not an honorable man so he won't do that. When Fury was at his lowest point in boxing it was Wilder who encouraged him and promised him a shot and Wilder kept his word. Fury on the other hand is a snake.
      The ONLY reasons he even gave Fury a shot was because, 1, he was a fat slob on the couch and 2, Wilder/PBC talked so much crap about the "lineal championship" being fake, that they thought theyd easily beat Fury and have this "championship" with them so that theyd counter whatever ever offer they were given by Hear/AJ. It backfired, Wilder got exposed in fight 1, then got beat tf up, stopped and embarassed in the 2nd.

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      • Szef
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        #33
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra

        What you're suggesting is that Fury do the honorable thing. Fury is not an honorable man so he won't do that. When Fury was at his lowest point in boxing it was Wilder who encouraged him and promised him a shot and Wilder kept his word. Fury on the other hand is a snake.
        i'm sure wilder did this because he's such an honorary man, not because fury was considered damaged goods with a name at that point

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        • billeau2
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          #34
          Originally posted by Szef

          i'm sure wilder did this because he's such an honorary man, not because fury was considered damaged goods with a name at that point
          Fury is a Gypsy King, and Wilder is an African King... Two monarchies!! When the king S h i ts in the forest, it rumbles... when TWO kings s hi t in the forest!!!... Wilder's Kingly costume gave him a problem, the Gypsy King's propensity for lager did the same...

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          • kushking
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            #35
            Since when has Coppinger ever been a reliable source?(he got fired from the worst rag pos paper in existence ffs,the Atlantic)

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            • QballLobo
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              #36
              There’s nothing an arbitrator can do to force a third fight between Wilder and Fury. They can only impose a monetary value and award Wilder some amount they deem acceptable. If Wilder’s team really felt they had some legal standing they would have taken it to court instead of requesting arbitration.
              Wilder had a rematch clause but there was an expiration date of when it had to be signed that past. Wilder wasn’t communicating at all to Top Rank’s attempts and that’s on him.

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                #37
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                However, he still owes Wilder a rematch for his WBC title though. After all, Wilder gave him two title defenses of his title and now Fury is attempting to run and hide without so much as giving Wilder one. Doesn't that seem fair or right to you? Of course it doesn't.
                Again, WBC is nothing to do with this. If he owes him a fight, that's a different matter.

                If Fury fights Joshua and wins, does he owe Joshua a rematch for all the belts? Of course he doesn't. He'll rematch him for whatever belts he still holds by the time the fight comes around. The belts can't be in the contract as the fighters don't run the organisations.

                And fair or right doesn't come into it. There was a contract between the two of them that neither of us have seen. I'll let those who have seen it, are qualified to comment, and are tasked with interpreting it, decide whether Fury owes Wilder anything.

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                • QballLobo
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                  How do you know any of this?
                  Because I have three lawyers in my family and that’s what arbitration is. Essentially a forced monetary settlement. Nothing more.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Deus
                    I'm sure Fury could pay damages to Wilder and fight Joshua and still end up with far more money than if he just fought Wilder instead. Looking forward to a whole hoard of Wilder fans celebrating that the first heavyweight unification in over 20 years may not happen though!
                    Wilder fans have been celebrating him blocking unification of the HW division since he first won the WBC title. They're not going to change now.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by QballLobo
                      There’s nothing an arbitrator can do to force a third fight between Wilder and Fury. They can only impose a monetary value and award Wilder some amount they deem acceptable. If Wilder’s team really felt they had some legal standing they would have taken it to court instead of requesting arbitration.
                      Wilder had a rematch clause but there was an expiration date of when it had to be signed that past. Wilder wasn’t communicating at all to Top Rank’s attempts and that’s on him.
                      Seems wrong, I dunno what lawyer taught you this but plenty of prototype creators are forced to finish projects for budgets they've already been through due to arbitration. Not money paid, work finished. I've lived it so you can tell me nah-uh until y'all cows come home but it don't change the reality of work experience. I doubt Wilder's got the position to force it but the juxta can become fight wilder or don't fight in the US.

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