Comments Thread For: Arum To Angry Fans Demanding Fury-Joshua Deal: Go F--- Yourself, Find a Life!

[DougalDylan]

ok boy are you bad at math.

First off Wilder vs Fury 2 left a lot of UK money off the table as it was on BT a secondary ppv channel and at 5am in the morning (5pm is perfect by comparison)

The ppv price UK is widely predicted to be 30ukp => 42$ some have reported much higher (50ukp => 70$ source talk sport) . This would be (at least) half a US ppv .. however Arum has also said repeatedly that the UK ppv cut is way smaller than the US network ppv cut hence Arums love for uk ppvs .. but even at half that's 1.7 million UK+IRL ppv's that number should be smashed as it should be BT and SKY doing it (Arum) NO ONE is predicting that low, AJ can do that on his own on Sky. Some people are saying 3 million ... that is very achievable ... I'm going lower but this is two brits fighting for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world .. go google the UK viewing records

Now AJ fights sell well around the world and some (ex US/UK) were even ppv in other markets as well .. this money will apparently be replaced by a rest of the world buy out by DAZN which should be huge.

Finally (Bob says) it's ppv ESPN only in the US (though may be sold via DAZN (I don't get Bob on this ??) so yep numbers may be low in the US (That's a shame I wish it was free in US) :-( but it's basically free revenue. Wilder vs Fury 2 lost all its revenue on Super bowel ads basically (Though you ignore extra digital sales) and barely broke even.

Also from an AJ point as Hearn unlike Haymon / Finkel doesn't fleece his fighters .. Joshua will normally have his managed fighters on the undercard as another revenue stream, oh and the site fee from the Saudis (covid permitting should crush even Vegas with ease .. go look what the middle east pumps into UK soccer just for the fun of it .. these guys laugh at 100 million dollar cheques for sport)

The guys that generate the money are the guys that stepped up to fight Klitschko .. Wilder refused when far more experienced so I have no sympathy for him.

That's because Americans won't be paying for this fight...especially at 5pm.

Wilder-Fury 2 set a record for gate revenue, as well as did 800-850K in ppv sales. They'd have to get 2.7 million buys from the UK just to equal out the ppv buys.

It's mind-boggling when you think of who's advising Fury to try to weasel his way out of a third fight.

[Tonyu]

I think the fans need to calm down. This is not about boxing but money. Hearn Joshua, Fury is about how much they can milk. They will only finalise it when they get a venue that will host huge crowds.

[billeau2]

He could’ve signed with Hearn in the beginning and fought better guys ,however if he did he would have had to fight A.J .

Signing with Arum probably helped him because he gained a cult following defeating Wilder while enabling him to say he’s the best of the era which he doesn’t have to prove because the U.S fans are very gullible .

He would lose to A.J and in the instance he does he will go from a great fighter to an overated one , if he can’t beat A.J he was no good all this time . I’m using the logic around here of course. In one breath Fury can defeat Lewis and in the other a.J stands no chance against Lewis even though he defeats Fury .

What a ****** post... You are such a halfwit lol. Fought better guys? Fury has beat the best out there, Wilder and Klitsko idiot. He handled Klitsko with ease compared to Aj...But let me guess you have some FACT stating that Klitsko was soooo much better when he fought AJ right? lol.

A loss or a win in and of itself means very little...what if AJ dominates Fury and the judges see it as a draw? What if the fight is epic and shows two talented fighters of equal ability... would that still make Fury over or underated? And then you pull some nonsense about triangle theory regarding Lewis, like any casua l fan who does not understand how flawed triangle theory is. Just in a simple post you make there are so many nonsensical things stated...

guillable? You believe Arum about the fight dates and call others guillable? You had a chance to put your credability on the line and walked. BTW that last sentence is a fact.
So far Arum has been textbook Arum which means Shoulder Roll's understanding of precident appears correct. Your such a dunce you probably forgot about Floyd and Arum... A perfect example of dealing with "fck the fans" Arum. Fury is right now making statements that appear (for anyone with any intelligence) to contradict Bob "fck the fans" Arum. I guess that is lost on you.

We will see how he does against AJ, your proven track record of being 100% wrong does not bode well for poor AJ. And for the record? I don't claim to know when, or if these two will fight. I do know Arum, I do know that Fury has some issues regarding the fight...

[BoloShot]

People from Texas are dumb as hell. The fight that was on last night was in Texas and they were limiting crowds, as they should.

Funny that you have the fall to call a whole state of people dumb as hell while being ****** enough to generalise a huge group of people like that. Wherever you're from is clearly even dumber than Texas.

[REDEEMER]

What a ****** post... You are such a halfwit lol. Fought better guys? Fury has beat the best out there, Wilder and Klitsko idiot. He handled Klitsko with ease compared to Aj...But let me guess you have some FACT stating that Klitsko was soooo much better when he fought AJ right? lol.

A loss or a win in and of itself means very little...what if AJ dominates Fury and the judges see it as a draw? What if the fight is epic and shows two talented fighters of equal ability... would that still make Fury over or underated? And then you pull some nonsense about triangle theory regarding Lewis, like any casua l fan who does not understand how flawed triangle theory is. Just in a simple post you make there are so many nonsensical things stated...

guillable? You believe Arum about the fight dates and call others guillable? You had a chance to put your credability on the line and walked. BTW that last sentence is a fact.
So far Arum has been textbook Arum which means Shoulder Roll's understanding of precident appears correct. Your such a dunce you probably forgot about Floyd and Arum... A perfect example of dealing with "fck the fans" Arum. Fury is right now making statements that appear (for anyone with any intelligence) to contradict Bob "fck the fans" Arum. I guess that is lost on you.

We will see how he does against AJ, your proven track record of being 100% wrong does not bode well for poor AJ. And for the record? I don't claim to know when, or if these two will fight. I do know Arum, I do know that Fury has some issues regarding the fight...

Hearn offered him a 3 fight contract ,the guys he had for Fury were better then Schwartz and Sefari . Fury would have been fighting Kaufman and Kuzman in his come back fights and suggested was Whyte before A.J . Yet you came to the conclusion Fury fought the best guys under Arum ? Really . Did your nose grow writing that one ? Dazn wasn’t even involved with Hearn until 2018 ,why are you bringing up Klitschko as an example ? Ha

Fury stole from himself because he could have fought A.J on Dazn , Wilder is not a good payday . Fury made money because of ESPN deal but if you are suggesting Fury has fought good competitive fights outside Wallin you are only exposing yourself once again as a liar in here .

Fury also said he would fight Whyte for the Silver belt title but declined when offers were made by the WBC ,so you are the fool if you take Furys words over 3 promoters who are all saying the same thing unlike Fury the walking contradiction who admits he doesn’t know anything about the fight and it’s out of his hands saying whoever they get he will fight ,somehow you weren’t even smart enough that you missed that and think Arums comments here are in reflection of the fight itself not the fans which shows how easily it is to win debates with you every time and taking the word of Fury who said you don’t know when he’s telling the truth because he lies ,did you purposely ignore that in his latest interview ? You make this way to easy Silly Billy .

Arums also 90 he isn’t going to milk anything like Pac-Man vs Floyd this isn’t 2008 / 2015 . This is for the undisputed heavyweight championship you probably don’t know why that’s different.

Silly Billy your nose grows by the day on here . Ha

“A loss or a win in and of itself means very little...what if AJ dominates Fury and the judges see it as a draw?”

The fights not happening though according to the poster you are agreeing with ? And I’m the ****** one but you’re making scenerios I never even brought up and are assuming the fight happens which makes you more on the same page as me not Shoulder , let that sink in . Like I said Silly Billy this isn’t the thunderdome ,you can’t make stuff up here you need facts .or you get carved up fast .

[sicko]

Well No Full Capacity Crowd No Mega Fights! Boxing Fans are very impatient and Naive, we want all these Big Fights NOW but then are the first to cry and complain about them being PPV's. Yeah UFC still rolling out big fights but they also working with a Billion Dollar Contract from ESPN and they don't pay their fighters sh^t

STFU, stop accusing everybody of ducking and be patient and let this damn Pandemic go away and allow more Cities and States to open up fully before having all these Demand

[Toffee]

Well No Full Capacity Crowd No Mega Fights! Boxing Fans are very impatient and Naive, we want all these Big Fights NOW but then are the first to cry and complain about them being PPV's. Yeah UFC still rolling out big fights but they also working with a Billion Dollar Contract from ESPN and they don't pay their fighters sh^t

STFU, stop accusing everybody of ducking and be patient and let this damn Pandemic go away and allow more Cities and States to open up fully before having all these Demand

Well at least the promoters are starting to admit that it's a problem. They keep saying they'll fight in May/June and I'm thinking all along that there's no chance.

But someone needs to get Fury in a ring ASAP. or it will never happen.

Obviously I don't believe his comments about not training and drinking ten pints of Stella. That's just Fury being Fury. But he is a ticking time bomb... over 12 months inactive for Fury is a serious problem.

[billeau2]

Hearn offered him a 3 fight contract ,the guys he had for Fury were better then Schwartz and Sefari . Fury would have been fighting Kaufman and Kuzman in his come back fights and suggested was Whyte before A.J . Yet you came to the conclusion Fury fought the best guys under Arum ? Really . Did your nose grow writing that one ? Dazn wasn’t even involved with Hearn until 2018 ,why are you bringing up Klitschko as an example ? Ha

Fury stole from himself because he could have fought A.J on Dazn , Wilder is not a good payday . Fury made money because of ESPN deal but if you are suggesting Fury has fought good competitive fights outside Wallin you are only exposing yourself once again as a liar in here .

Fury also said he would fight Whyte for the Silver belt title but declined when offers were made by the WBC ,so you are the fool if you take Furys words over 3 promoters who are all saying the same thing unlike Fury the walking contradiction who admits he doesn’t know anything about the fight and it’s out of his hands saying whoever they get he will fight ,somehow you weren’t even smart enough that you missed that and think Arums comments here are in reflection of the fight itself not the fans which shows how easily it is to win debates with you every time and taking the word of Fury who said you don’t know when he’s telling the truth because he lies ,did you purposely ignore that in his latest interview ? You make this way to easy Silly Billy .

Arums also 90 he isn’t going to milk anything like Pac-Man vs Floyd this isn’t 2008 / 2015 . This is for the undisputed heavyweight championship you probably don’t know why that’s different.

Silly Billy your nose grows by the day on here . Ha

“A loss or a win in and of itself means very little...what if AJ dominates Fury and the judges see it as a draw?”

The fights not happening though according to the poster you are agreeing with ? And I’m the ****** one but you’re making scenerios I never even brought up and are assuming the fight happens which makes you more on the same page as me not Shoulder , let that sink in . Like I said Silly Billy this isn’t the thunderdome ,you can’t make stuff up here you need facts .or you get carved up fast .

No fight contract would be followed through with Covid, and better? How so? Fury fought the two best fighters. AJ lost to Ruiz. Other fights are not as material, like any difference between second rate opponents whom you mention. The promoter alas is immaterial to the fact that Fury fought the best in the division and now should fight AJ.

You compare Wilder to AJ forgetting that when Fury fought Wilder he was undefeated and considered the greater threat of the two. When you beat the best, its kind of immaterial who you fight considering the situation with Covid. You have basically built a house of cards... trying to make it seem the division is full of great fighters that Fury avoided. How silly Billy of you Ha! Whyte? really? I like Whyte, think he is very talented, but there was never any great reason for fury to give him a shot.

write coherently idiot. the interview from Arum tells us nothing. It only highlights the differences between his take and Fury's. You would trust Arum lol. Let me explain something to you... Arum has a big motivation to lie and act like he is a victim... He wants this fight when the most gold is squeezed out of the boxing public. What is Fury's motivation to lie? The problem is idiots like you do not know how little fighters are in control of their fights. All Fury said was that he did not see this fight being made and that he was not training because he is distraught. He never even said anything absolute, or factual.

I don't take anyone's word for it, you are the guillable one. Promoters promote... They want to appear as being succesful in doing so, it is their job. Yes I take Fury's word over Arum's because Fury has no motive to lie...

Im so sorry that claiming to carve up, to be right, does not make it so Ha! Unfortunately for you these posts are a record of your idiocy. Its obvious you make simple mistakes in logic, understand nothing about motive and how it drives communication and are in general a half wit. Arum is angry for a reason: he cannot control this fight right now, hence justlike your flustered posts, his outburst. Fury was calm and never stated anything that would benefit his position in this negotiation. I think this goes over your head... but others with more insight can understand the point. More of your idiocy exposed... Ha!

[Marchegiano]

Bob Arum has been disrespecting fans and the sport for decades so it's not like he has to worry about any kind of returns.

[Fair Shake]

It's all on Fury. Where there is smoke, there is fire.. and all of a sudden when both promoters had been lauding both camps on their progress, Fury goes on rants about needing a tune-up fight and that he might fight Wilder instead. That he's been vacationing.. he's not gonna sign