I like Pernell, but he didn't do **** against Oscar

[Vasyl’s dad]

What about power punches?? lol

Well no ****, DLH was the aggressor. But according to you, going backwards being defensive is the aggressor lol.

If Pea wasn't aggressive,

how did he throw more punches and land at a higher rate?

[Mr. Fantastic]

If Pea wasn't aggressive,

how did he throw more punches and land at a higher rate?

How many of those were power punches?? What's the comparison with his jabs/power punches??

[Benncollinsaad]

If Pea wasn't aggressive,

how did he throw more punches and land at a higher rate?

Before you start talking out of your ass, go look at the actual figures. Unfortunately the compubox facts are unavailable at boxrec.

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4/12/97 W 12 PERNELL WHITAKER (counter-puncher’s delight, as they both threw less than 50 punches per round. Oscar landed 191 of 557 (34%) to 232 of 582 (40%) for Whitaker, who had 160-45 edge in jab connects. Oscar down for flash in 9th. Pete lost point in 3rd for low blow. Scoring: 115-111 D; 116-110 D; 116-110 D.)

"Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker's eight-year reign as boxing champion ended tonight at the hands of Oscar De La Hoya and those who officially judged the fight.

De La Hoya (24-0) claimed his fourth world title at the age of 24 by taking Whitaker's long-held World Boxing Council welterweight belt in a unanimous decision at the Thomas & Mack Center. Although many saw the bout as even, two judges had De La Hoya winning the fight comfortably by 116-110, and the other had it 115-111.

Whitaker scored the only knockdown of the fight, in the ninth round; he connected on 232 punches to De La Hoya's 191, according to CompuBox Inc.; and he landed 160 jabs to 45 for the challenger. "

[Vasyl’s dad]

Before you start talking out of your ass, go look at the actual figures. Unfortunately the compubox facts are unavailable at boxrec.

How many of those were power punches?? What's the comparison with his jabs/power punches??

Pea threw more and landed more.


4/12/97 W 12 PERNELL WHITAKER (counter-puncher’s delight, as they both threw less than 50 punches per round. Oscar landed 191 of 557 (34%) to 232 of 582 (40%) for Whitaker, who had 160-45 edge in jab connects.

http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/delahoya_notes.shtml

Whether its a power punch or a jab doesn't matter, what matters is how effective it is.

A jab can be a very effective weapon. Whitaker, just like Mayweather, shut DLH down with it.

So yea, Benn, before you start talking out of your ass, look at the actual figures.

[Vasyl’s dad]

4/12/97 W 12 PERNELL WHITAKER (counter-puncher’s delight, as they both threw less than 50 punches per round. Oscar landed 191 of 557 (34%) to 232 of 582 (40%) for Whitaker, who had 160-45 edge in jab connects. Oscar down for flash in 9th. Pete lost point in 3rd for low blow. Scoring: 115-111 D; 116-110 D; 116-110 D.)

"Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker's eight-year reign as boxing champion ended tonight at the hands of Oscar De La Hoya and those who officially judged the fight.

De La Hoya (24-0) claimed his fourth world title at the age of 24 by taking Whitaker's long-held World Boxing Council welterweight belt in a unanimous decision at the Thomas & Mack Center. Although many saw the bout as even, two judges had De La Hoya winning the fight comfortably by 116-110, and the other had it 115-111.

Whitaker scored the only knockdown of the fight, in the ninth round; he connected on 232 punches to De La Hoya's 191, according to CompuBox Inc.; and he landed 160 jabs to 45 for the challenger. "

lol, we both found the same page.

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Well to be fair you score a fight round by round not off of just compubox and even then its a close fight...I could understand ppl scoring it for Oscar or Pernell...

Same as Mayweather-Castillo 1 being close and ppl pointing to the compubox saying Castillo was robbed...

[Vasyl’s dad]

Well to be fair you score a fight round by round not off of just compubox and even then its a close fight...I could understand ppl scoring it for Oscar or Pernell...

Same as Mayweather-Castillo 1 being close and ppl pointing to the compubox saying Castillo was robbed...

I completely agree which is why I don't base everything on those stats.

In fact, in most cases, I rarely use them.

But in this case, dude is saying Pea wasn't aggresive, but Oscar was?


How is one more aggressive by throwing less punches is what I'm basically getting at.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

You don't need to be a Pernell nuthugger to believe that the decision was grossly inaccurate and ridiculous. You just have to be a boxing fan.

Are you calling out Pernell or his nuthuggers on this thread? Is this a hate thread or a debate thread. Don't call people nuthuggers just because they disagreed with your statements because your thread just lacks credibility. Why don't you just rename the thread - I hate Whitaker and his nuthuggers.

WOW! A pacq fan stating it like it really is! This is what keeps me posting on this forum. The hope of constructive and objective debating! Cheers to KOBOY!

[Jim Jeffries]

Pea threw more and landed more.


4/12/97 W 12 PERNELL WHITAKER (counter-puncher’s delight, as they both threw less than 50 punches per round. Oscar landed 191 of 557 (34%) to 232 of 582 (40%) for Whitaker, who had 160-45 edge in jab connects.

http://www.compuboxonline.com/notes/delahoya_notes.shtml

Whether its a power punch or a jab doesn't matter, what matters is how effective it is.

A jab can be a very effective weapon. Whitaker, just like Mayweather, shut DLH down with it.

So yea, Benn, before you start talking out of your ass, look at the actual figures.

Judges will usually score power punches a little higher than jabs.

By your figures, Pernell landed 232 - 160 = 72 power punches to DLH's

191 - 45 = 146.

So Pea landed about 20% more total punches, but Oscar landed more than double the power punches. Depends on your preference. If you, like you say, think a jab equals a left hook, then Pea won the fight. Most think otherwise.