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  • Originally posted by kafkod View Post

    Maybe it's a new modern kind of evidence ... like the new modern drug that Breland spiked Wilder with. It appears and disappears depending on who's looking for it.
    The doctors who examined him post-fight would know what it was. The actual drug wasn't divulged. It may be at a later date.

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    • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post

      The doctors who examined him post-fight would know what it was. The actual drug wasn't divulged. It may be at a later date.
      You don’t come to conclusion based on examination ,you do submitted blood or urine samples to get a conclusion if any foreign substance is present in the body .


      If they had that evidence they wouldn’t have been in mediation, they would have been in court awhile ago seeking huge amounts of a big lawsuit of illegal activity ,but I guess you think we don’t know this ?

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      • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        A troll is someone who comes into a thread lost and spouts out things about nothing which is you when he has no knowledge or nothing relevant to say . What’s the matter is no one paying attention to you much in the fantasy section so you came in here to dumb the thread down here about nothing again, tell us silly Billy ? Shouldn’t you be crying to the mods about something or are you just bored my Chris Farley stalker look alike and need attention again ? “Dummer” yes the irony of it .

        Edit : Why don’t you take the bet Silly Billy if you’re that interested in it ? One where a dispute if a fight happens next even though it’s practically been announced ? One that is going to be next btw unless Fury decides not to sign ,you can be officially Silly Billy on here ? We’ll go beyond a name change but an avatar as well , all you need is a picture of Chris Farley . Ha
        Your pronouncements are trolling, they are ridiculous. The only silly billy here is you... what is the status of that bet with Shoulder Roll? lol... You are a troll because you know you are full of crap, if not, take the bet! Easy right? Money talks BS walks HA! So you must be trolling silly Billy. Trolls think they can sprout the worse gibberish and get away with it... ain't happening... HA!

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        • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post

          The doctors who examined him post-fight would know what it was. The actual drug wasn't divulged. It may be at a later date.
          This is all such pie in the sky. It's vague, just slinging mud and hoping something, anything sticks. It's amazing that you believe Wilder's excuses about the glove and the water and about Breland being in on it. Presumably Deas was in on it as well when he watched Fury slipping an egg weight into his glove when putting them on in the changing room?

          As has been pointed out, if Wilder had any actual evidence he would have sued to get his belt back rather than go to mediation to beg for a fight.

          If any of the things you claim were true, he would have plenty of evidence. The gloves Fury used would still be with the NSAC. They can be inspected (these are the factory-sealed, NSAC approved gloves given to Fury by a NSAC representative on the night after his hands have been wrapped. Everything was recorded on video. The NSAC had an inspector there. Jay Deas was there).

          It all played out live in front of our eyes. The difference was the big bald guy punching the other guy many times in the head, accurately.

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          • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post

            You don’t come to conclusion based on examination ,you do submitted blood or urine samples to get a conclusion if any foreign substance is present in the body .


            If they had that evidence they wouldn’t have been in mediation, they would have been in court awhile ago seeking huge amounts of a big lawsuit of illegal activity ,but I guess you think we don’t know this ?
            Of course he had his blood and urine examined post-fight. Which is probably why he said he was drugged. As far as divulging that information, that is up to him.

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            • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post

              Of course he had his blood and urine examined post-fight. Which is probably why he said he was drugged. As far as divulging that information, that is up to him.
              The athletic commission would be involved because they have to be informed and the WBC would demand answers like they did with Whyte and they weren’t even involved so stop lying because UKAD took presidence in that Rivas fight in the U.K . When it comes to adverse findings it goes beyond a fighters wishes for someone to be penalized, it goes into an automatic investigation.

              You’re becoming like Silly Billy and not making any real statements.
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-05-2021, 12:37 PM.

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              • Occam's razor states that given multiples explanations, the simplest one is usually the right one.

                Explanation 1: Fury manipulated the gloves in a way that was more likely to injure his own hand than cause extra damage to his opponent, Wilder's own trainer and the NSAC conspired to cheat Wilder, and no court in the law is interested

                or

                Explanation 2: Wilder is a poor loser


                I think it's pretty clear.

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                • Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                  This is all such pie in the sky. It's vague, just slinging mud and hoping something, anything sticks. It's amazing that you believe Wilder's excuses about the glove and the water and about Breland being in on it. Presumably Deas was in on it as well when he watched Fury slipping an egg weight into his glove when putting them on in the changing room?

                  As has been pointed out, if Wilder had any actual evidence he would have sued to get his belt back rather than go to mediation to beg for a fight.

                  If any of the things you claim were true, he would have plenty of evidence. The gloves Fury used would still be with the NSAC. They can be inspected (these are the factory-sealed, NSAC approved gloves given to Fury by a NSAC representative on the night after his hands have been wrapped. Everything was recorded on video. The NSAC had an inspector there. Jay Deas was there).

                  It all played out live in front of our eyes. The difference was the big bald guy punching the other guy many times in the head, accurately.
                  Did the NSAC catch Margarito? No, Mosley's trainer Naazim Richardson did. They missed the alleged loaded gloves when he fought Cotto.

                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ing-gloves-ban

                  Did the NSAC catch Maidana? No, Mayweather's CEO Leonard Ellerbe did. (boxingnews24 link)

                  https://www.************.com/2014/05...e-controversy/

                  Wilder wants to punish Fury. He's allowed to do that legally in the ring...
                  Last edited by davefromvancouv; 03-05-2021, 12:38 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post

                    Did the NSAC catch Margarito? No, Mosley's trainer Naazim Richardson did. They missed the alleged loaded gloves when he fought Cotto.

                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ing-gloves-ban

                    Did the NSAC catch Maidana? No, Mayweather's CEO Leonard Ellerbe did. (boxingnews24 link)

                    https://www.************.com/2014/05...e-controversy/

                    Wilder wants to punish Fury. He's allowed to do that legally in the ring...
                    Would have been difficult for the NSAC to catch Margarito considering he wasn't fighting in Nevada.

                    But you are arguing in favour of the line of thought that says a trainer watching the wrapping is likely to spot something.

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                    • Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                      Would have been difficult for the NSAC to catch Margarito considering he wasn't fighting in Nevada.

                      But you are arguing in favour of the line of thought that says a trainer watching the wrapping is likely to spot something.
                      The argument is that the boxing commissions have a history of not catching cheaters before they cheat, or letting it slide before the fight. Like UKAD allowing Dillian Whyte to fight Oscar Rivas without letting Rivas know that they found PEDs in his system AND allowing Dillian Whyte to use un-inspected gloves.

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