Julio Cesar Chavez's 89-0 record has to be one of the biggest Frauds ever!!

[TheGreatA]

u know who else had a lot of nobodies in their record? sugar ray robinson.

he had a lot of fights with guys who had 20 to 30 losses some had horrendous win loss records but nobody questions his all time great status.

Here are all the top 10 ranked opponents and HOFers (bolded) Sugar Ray Robinson beat:

Joe Ghnouly
Pete Lello
Maxie Shapiro
Maxie Berger
Norman Rubio x2
Tony Motisi
Reuben Shank
Izzy Jannazzo x4
Ralph Zannelli
Sheik Rangel
Tommy Bell x2
George Costner x2
Jose Basora x2
Jimmy McDaniels
Cecil Hudson x2
Georgie Abrams
Jimmy Doyle
Bernard Docusen
Vic Dellicurti
Steve Belloise
Aaron Wade
Ray Barnes
Robert Villemain x2
Charley Fusari
Bobby Dykes
Holly Mims
Artie Levine
Cyrille Delanoit
Rocky Castellani
Denny Moyer
Hans Stretz
Ralph Dupas

Sammy Angott x3
Fritzie Zivic x2
Jake LaMotta x5
Henry Armstrong
Kid Gavilan x2
Carl Olson x4
Randolph Turpin
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer
Carmen Basilio

Please point out a single fighter today who fought as many contenders/future hall of famers.

Robinson earned his place in history, so has Julio Cesar Chavez.

[My Name Is...]

The thing is alot of those fights were in just a month or 2 spans...

He was fighting every 2 months or so to stay in shape and mentally ready to fight....

I know not all 89 were there to put up a fight, but think of it as live ammunition in the Army Training....

Instead of constant sparring to stay in shape and stay busy while waiting for a fight... Why not make money, stay ready, and fight for real instead of just waiting around for months upon months to fight?

I mean if you look at boxrec... He fought Oct. 9th of 89. and fought on the 27th of the same month....

I just wanted to repost this so that I make sure everyone reads this, because this is the TRUTH....

[Steak]

who cares if he beat a lot of nobodies. he also has multiple wins over top ten competition, including plnety of future or former world champions.

Mario Martinez(#3)
Roger Mayweather(#2)
Rocky Lockridge(#2)
Juan LaPorte(#3)
Edwin Rosario(#1)
Jose Luis Ramirez(#2 or 3)
Roger Mayweather II(Top 4)
Sammy Fuentes(#9)
Meldrick Taylor(#2)
John Duplessis(#9)
Angel Hernandez(#10 or higher)
Hector Camacho(#4 or higher)
Greg Haugen(#9)
Terrence Alli(#3)
Frankie Randall(#1)
Tony Lopez(#9 or higher)
Giovanni Parisi(#7)
David Kamau(#6)

the 89-0 doesnt mean much by itself. add in the fact that he was fighting very high level opposition, and it means a hell of a lot more.

its also overlooked that Chavez fought and beat two of the fastest fighters in the history of boxing, Hector Camacho and Meldrick Taylor.

he was 10 years into his career and at his 3rd weight class before his first controversial fight(Meldrick Taylor) and 13 years into his career and 4th weight class before his first loss(Whitaker)

[TredKiller]

in his early days he was fighting like every other week jus to survive in mexico, he didnt give a **** about comp, he was jus a 15 year old kid who had brothas and sistas who had to eat, but later in his carrer he fought reall good fighters.

[oc9979]

come on? in your 83rd fight and you are fighting Bruce Pearson with this record 10-10-1

[oc9979]

71 fight Russell Mosley 4-3-1
70 fight Akwei Addo 5-3-0

those are record for someone under 20 fights

[Sorbetero]

71 fight Russell Mosley 4-3-1
70 fight Akwei Addo 5-3-0

those are record for someone under 20 fights

i think boxing in 80s, 70s, they all do that its like a payday

[TheGreatA]

come on? in your 83rd fight and you are fighting Bruce Pearson with this record 10-10-1

71 fight Russell Mosley 4-3-1
70 fight Akwei Addo 5-3-0

those are record for someone under 20 fights

Those were only stay-busy fights in between real competition. Chavez wanted to fight almost every month.

Pernell Whitaker fought a 7-4 bum named Ben Baez before taking on Julio Cesar Chavez and Buddy McGirt. He had also fought 12-13 Jerry Smith and 7-16 Martin Galvan while reigning as the world champion.

[IMDAZED]

Come on man, at the time how many of those 89 were real opposition?, He was a good fighter but in my view out of all the "all time greats" people talk about, hes highly overrated. What do you think about his 89-0 record?

No one thinks Chavez is great because of his undefeated record. Use your brain.

[riannu]

No one thinks Chavez is great because of his undefeated record. Use your brain.

That's just the problem.......they don't know how to usde their brain. A lot of old-time fighters has padded record, but it's also littered with ATG's and HOF. 89-0 takes a lot of consistency. And for the one who says 39-0 of PBF is more impressive.....just 39 fights and Floyd is already complaining of his body breaking dow. What more if he has double that fights....even against bums.