Julio Cesar Chavez's 89-0 record has to be one of the biggest Frauds ever!!

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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #31
    Originally posted by gancho_al_igado
    I aint dissing him personally, I am just saying the 89-0 record is bull****. Thats all, he was a good fighter no doubt
    Thing is,

    you're acting as if hes the only fighter in history with questionable wins.

    We can list every single big name fighter with questionable victories.

    Start that thread so you can expose those too.

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      #32
      Originally posted by gancho_al_igado
      I aint dissing him personally, I am just saying the 89-0 record is bull****. Thats all, he was a good fighter no doubt


      it would be nice if today's fighters stayed that busy...tomato can opponents or not...89 wins is a nice way of not jus self-promoting, but promotion of the sport in general

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        #33
        Originally posted by gancho_al_igado
        most of those guys were after he had already lost. he shoulda lost to taylor and whitaker btw.
        If Im not mistaken he knocked out Taylor in the 12th right?
        If so then your whole thead is bullsh it and you are nothging more than a hater. Please correct me if I am wrong

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          #34
          Originally posted by Makavelli
          it would be nice if today's fighters stayed that busy...tomato can opponents or not...89 wins is a nice way of not jus self-promoting, but promotion of the sport in general
          and since $$$ is the millenium motivator for anything these days,


          more fights, equal more money.


          But no, some of todays fighters want it all for nothing.


          Chavez laid the blueprint for how to keep your name out there, he was always fighting.

          Its up to todays fighters to take that torch and carry it.



          I don't think anyone will ever fight as often, again.

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          • K-Nan
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            #35
            His Camacho win alone should silence the world.

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              #36
              quantity over quality, its the same damn thing sugar ray robinson did...

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              • TheGreatA
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                #37
                By his 44th professional bout he fought for the world title and rarely faced any "bums" after that aside from the occasional tune-up in between title defenses.

                I don't think he had any notable amateur career which is why he spent his early career fighting nobodies.

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                  #38
                  im tired of people bringing up the taylor fight aswell..he knocked taylor out..not once but twice

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                    Result

                    Score/Time
                    1980-02-05 Andres Felix Culiacan, Sinaloa KO6
                    1980-03-03 Fidencio Cebreros Culiacan, Sinaloa PTS
                    1980-04-08 Ramon Flores Culiacan, Sinaloa PTS
                    1980-05-20 Roberto Garcia Guaymas, Sonora TKO6
                    1980-07-18 Tito Geraldo Guamuchil, Sinaloa PTS
                    1980-09-05 Miguel Cebrero Culiacan, Sinaloa PTS
                    1980-09-22 Jesus Lara Culiacan, Sinaloa PTS
                    1980-10-13 Jesus Martinez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO1
                    1980-11-26 Andres Felix Culiacan, Sinaloa KO6
                    1980-12-15 Roberto Flores Culiacan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1981-02-02 Julio Gaxiola Tijuana, Baja California KO4
                    1981-03-04 Miguel Ruiz Culiacan, Sinaloa KO1
                    1981-05-08 Eduardo Acosta Culiacan, Sinaloa KO2
                    1981-06-05 Victor Gamez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO1
                    1981-06-26 Fidel Navarro Culiacan, Sinaloa KO1
                    1981-07-10 Bobby Fernandez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO1
                    1981-07-27 Daniel Martinez Tijuana, Baja California KO1
                    1981-08-07 Jesus Lara Culiacan, Sinaloa KO2
                    1981-08-31 Daniel Felizardo Tijuana, Baja California KO3
                    1981-09-25 Jorge Ramirez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO2
                    1981-10-19 Jose Medina Tijuana, Baja California KO6
                    1981-12-17 Manuel Vasquez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO7
                    1982-01-12 Ramon Luque Tijuana, Baja California KO1
                    1982-01-29 Jesus Garcia Guamuchil, Sinaloa KO2
                    1982-02-04 Ramon Peraza Tijuana, Baja California KO1
                    1982-02-19 Carlos Bryant Culiacan, Sinaloa KO2
                    1982-03-11 Johnny Jensen Tijuana, Baja California KO3
                    1982-03-29 Jose Medina Tijuana, Baja California KO6
                    1982-04-26 Benny Abarca Tijuana, Baja California PTS
                    1982-05-08 Juan Carlos Alvarado Culiacan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1982-07-19 Gustavo Salgado Tijuana, Baja California KO2
                    1982-08-20 Santos Rodriguez Culiacan, Sinaloa KO8
                    1982-09-28 Jose Resendez Tijuana, Baja California KO6
                    1982-10-23 Jerry Lewis Tijuana, Baja California KO5
                    1982-12-11 Jerry Lewis Sacramento, California KO6
                    1983-02-25 Othoniel Lopez Ensenada, Baja California KO4
                    1983-04-04 Ernesto Herrera Tijuana, Baja California KO2
                    1983-05-01 Javier Fragoso San Juan, Puerto Rico KO4
                    1983-06-15 Romero Sandoval Los Angeles, California KO2 1:58
                    1983-07-16 Benny Abarca Culiacan, Sinaloa KO5
                    1983-09-01 Adriano Arreola Los Angeles, California PTS
                    1983-12-30 Armando Flores Mazatlan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1984-05-04 Ramon Avitia Culiacan, Sinaloa KO6
                    1984-06-13 Delfino Mendoza Hermosillo, Sonora KO3
                    1984-09-13 Mario Martinez Los Angeles, California TKO8
                    1985-01-01 Manuel Hernandez Mexico City, Mexico KO3
                    1985-04-19 Ruben Castillo Inglewood, California TKO6 2:56
                    1985-07-07 Roger Mayweather Las Vegas, Nevada TKO2 2:30
                    1985-09-21 Dwight Pratchett Las Vegas, Nevada UD 120-109, 118-110, 117-111
                    1985-12-19 Jeff Bumphus Los Angeles, California TD5 1:19
                    1986-03-22 Roberto Collins Lindo Las Vegas, Nevada KO2 0:31
                    1986-05-15 Faustino Martires Barrios Paris, France TKO5 2:02
                    1986-06-13 Refugio Rojas New York, New York TKO7 2:33
                    1986-08-03 Rocky Lockridge Monte Carlo, Monaco MD 119-113, 116-113, 116-116
                    1986-12-12 Juan LaPorte New York, New York UD 117-112, 115-114, 114-113
                    1987-04-18 Francisco Tomas Da Cruz Nimes, France TKO3 2:31
                    1987-08-21 Danilo Cabrera Tijuana, Baja California UD 120-102(x2), 120-105
                    1987-11-21 Edwin Rosario Las Vegas, Nevada TKO11 2:38
                    1988-03-05 Nico Perez Tijuana, Baja California KO3
                    1988-04-16 Rodolfo Aguilar Las Vegas, Nevada TKO6 1:13
                    1988-06-04 Rafael Limon Mazatlan, Sinaloa TKO7
                    1988-08-01 Vernon Buchanan Inglewood, California TKO3
                    1988-10-29 Jose Luis Ramirez Las Vegas, Nevada TD11 98-91, 96-94, 95-93
                    1989-05-13 Roger Mayweather Inglewood, California TKO10 3:00
                    1989-07-30 Kenny Vice Atlantic City, New Jersey TKO3 1:57
                    1989-10-09 Rodolfo Batta Tijuana, Baja California KO1
                    1989-10-27 Ramon Aramburu Mazatlan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1989-11-18 Sammy Fuentes Las Vegas, Nevada TKO10 3:00
                    1989-12-16 Alberto Cortes Mexico City, Mexico TKO3 1:56
                    1990-03-17 Meldrick Taylor Las Vegas, Nevada TKO12 2:58
                    1990-07-05 Akwei Addo Madrid, Spain KO2
                    1990-08-18 Russell Mosley Culiacan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1990-11-08 Jaime Balboa Mazatlan, Sinaloa TKO4 2:10
                    1990-12-08 Kyung Duk Ahn Atlantic City, New Jersey TKO3 2:14
                    1991-03-18 John Duplessis Las Vegas, Nevada TKO4 2:42
                    1991-04-26 Tommy Small Culiacan, Sinaloa TKO4 0:56
                    1991-09-14 Lonnie Smith Las Vegas, Nevada UD 119-107, 118-106, 118-109
                    1991-11-12 Jorge Alberto Melian Mexico City, Mexico KO4 1:36
                    1991-12-13 Ignacio Pedromo Hermosillo, Sonora TKO8 0:00
                    1992-03-13 Juan Soberanes La Paz, Baja California Sur KO4
                    1992-04-10 Angel Hernandez Mexico City, Mexico TKO5 1:11
                    1992-08-01 Frankie Mitchell Las Vegas, Nevada TKO4 0:56
                    1992-09-12 Hector Camacho Las Vegas, Nevada UD 120-107, 119-110, 117-111
                    1992-10-31 Bruce Pearson Culiacan, Sinaloa KO3
                    1992-12-13 Marty Jakubowski Las Vegas, Nevada TKO6
                    1993-02-20 Greg Haugen Mexico City, Mexico TKO5 2:02
                    1993-04-10 Silvio Walter Rojas Zapopan, Jalisco KO3 2:05
                    1993-05-08 Terrence Alli Las Vegas, Nevada TKO6 0:45
                    1993-09-10 Pernell Whitaker San Antonio, Texas MD 115(x2), 113-115
                    1993-10-30 Mike Powell Juarez, Chihuahua TKO4
                    1993-12-18 Andy Holligan Puebla, Puebla TKO5 3:00
                    1994-05-07 Frankie Randall Las Vegas, Nevada TD8 76-75, 77-74, 75-76
                    1994-01-29 Frankie Randall Las Vegas, Nevada (SD) 114-113, 113-114, 111-116

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                      #40
                      I love Chavez but they actually say he had a loss on his record kind of early on because of a DQ but it got taken from his record and changed to a win. Also its debatable whether he got lucky with Steeles call in the Taylor fight or if he deserved the knockout win, and also the draw against Whitaker was total bull****. So yeah he really shouldnt have been undefeated for so long. Either way I take nothing away from the man, he was a great fighter. Mexico's finest.

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