Julio Cesar Chavez's 89-0 record has to be one of the biggest Frauds ever!!

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  • gancho_al_igado
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    #51
    Originally posted by hi-five
    if anything, his son JCC jr's record is 39-0, same as you know who, PBF 39-0.
    exactly but floyd has fought tough comp. Dont gimme that.

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    • studentofthegam
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      #52
      yeah 89-0 is padded but he eventually fought the best. Mexican fighters start early so you cant just throw him in with monsters.

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      • Panopticon
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        #53
        Chavez didnt lose until he was 32 years old, with over 90 fights under his belt.

        It is well known that fighters at the lower weights burn out faster than the heavier fighters. Consider that and note that Chavez worked and trained his ass off during the first 13 years of his carreer without a loss. He threw alot of punches, took alot of punches, and never went down or lost.

        He was steadily in decline by 93 when Whitaker beat him. They were within bounds of eachother in 87-89 but I highly doubt team Whitaker was willing to put their boy in with Chavez in those years.

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        • extracurRICular
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          #54
          Originally posted by gancho_al_igado
          Come on man, at the time how many of those 89 were real opposition?, He was a good fighter but in my view out of all the "all time greats" people talk about, hes highly overrated. What do you think about his 89-0 record?
          BLASPHEMY....YOU SHALL GO TO HELL FOR YOUR INSOLENCE!!!!!

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          • hi-five
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            #55
            Originally posted by gancho_al_igado
            exactly but floyd has fought tough comp. Dont gimme that.
            I agree with you, being undefeated or 89-0 doesn't really mean alot if you're just fighting tomato cans. JCC was good, but his record is definitely one of the most padded.

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            • Picazo
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              #56
              Originally posted by larrysmith
              how many people on here can beat up everyman on their block..not to mention 89 pro fighters
              damn true.

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              • My Name Is...
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                #57
                Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
                I can see that but he fought like 80 scrubs. I get alot of hate from my fam when i bring this up. Most mexican fans think this is a amazing thing he did
                The thing is alot of those fights were in just a month or 2 spans...

                He was fighting every 2 months or so to stay in shape and mentally ready to fight....

                I know not all 89 were there to put up a fight, but think of it as live ammunition in the Army Training....

                Instead of constant sparring to stay in shape and stay busy while waiting for a fight... Why not make money, stay ready, and fight for real instead of just waiting around for months upon months to fight?

                I mean if you look at boxrec... He fought Oct. 9th of 89. and fought on the 27th of the same month....

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                • Spray_resistant
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                  #58
                  Chavez fought many tomato cans but he also did fight and beat world class opposition too. Even if he never even fought any world class fighters 89-0 is still nothing to scoff at, Chavez was badass and an atg.

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                  • Cereal
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by larrysmith
                    how many people on here can beat up everyman on their block..not to mention 89 pro fighters
                    ****. This guy got it.

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                    • DonTaseMeBrah
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                      #60
                      u know who else had a lot of nobodies in their record? sugar ray robinson.

                      he had a lot of fights with guys who had 20 to 30 losses some had horrendous win loss records but nobody questions his all time great status.

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