I don't care what you say, Boxing requires more skill and is a deeper sport that MMA.

[shogunn]

Yes and as the fighters become more skilled in boxing, the sport will evolve back on to the ground. No way guys are gonna wanna stand and trade with a pro quality boxer even if they themselves are a pro quality boxer. Things will go back to the ground and become borderline boring to watch.
Just as you said, the sport is relatively new and still evolving. What you see now, isn't what you'll see later. With boxing, you know what you have and it's still on top.

and you know this how? Some people are more comfortable on top than on the ground. Against a pro boxer, of course an MMA'r would have a better chance on teh ground, where a boxer would have ZERO chance.

But to say everything just will go back to the ground again is just an unproven blanket statement.

There was a time when it was all ground, when the gracie's caught everyone off gaurd and introduced it to everyone. The sport has evolved since then and everyone is experienced on the ground, at least to escape and hold their own. Big reason why Gracie's arent as dominant as they once were, everyone adapted to them.

I dont see how evolving hurts them, whereas you say, "boxing With boxing, you know what you have and it's still on top". Im not sure that statement supports MMA. One sport is evolving and getting bigger, and the other staying stagnant.

Boxing fans are getting insecure about MMA, and Im a boxing fan who doesnt feel that way. I dont see any reason to down MMA.

[El Jesus]

Jesus Christ, my point is QUARTERBACK is a position in FOOTBALL like boxing is a part of MMA.

Is it that difficult to understand?

Playing Quarterback IS FOOTBALL, so if you're going to make a logical argument, you may argue that playing QUARTERBACK is more difficult than playing WR/TE/SS and so on. To say the position of QUARTERBACK is more difficult to play than FOOTBALL shows you have the mental competency of your average American Idol fan.

Quarterback is the most difficult position to play in football, i shouldnt need to clarify that its tougher than wideout, back or O-line. That should be obvious.

But i guess by not pointing that out, i am the average american idol fan with a lack of mental capacity, lord forbid i miss Paula, Simon and Randy.

[ColtraneChanges]

There's a fine difference between the following two statements:

"Quarterback is the most difficult position IN football"
"Quarterback is more difficult to play THAN football"

one of the above statements makes zero sense.

[johnm is...]

That's like saying Tennis is harder than football because Brian Urlacher is a good football player but a ****ty Tennis Player.

MMA requires a greater diversity of skill, boxing requires specialization.

Brian Urlacher never played tennis. Silva has tried boxing. So it's really nothing at all like that.

[El Jesus]

There's a fine difference between the following two statements:

"Quarterback is the most difficult position IN football"
"Quarterback is more difficult to play THAN football"

one of the above statements makes zero sense.

this is what i said

Quarterback is the most difficult position in the entire sport. That should tell you something about your analogy.

Playing the position of quarterback is the most difficult position in the entire sport.

I never said "quarterback is more difficult than football".

Why are you clinging to this strawman as opposed to awknowledging that being champion in MMA isnt as difficult as it is in queensbury rules boxing.

Thats the whole point of this thread. I cant stand Joe Calzhage or his "reign". But i would respect his years of hardwork, dedication and effort he gave to the sport far more than the reign of ANY MMA champion today. Thats my opinion. My uninformed, ignorant, american idol lack of mental capacity opinion

[MikeT86]

Brian Urlacher never played tennis. Silva has tried boxing. So it's really nothing at all like that.

Lets keep it in football then so there's actually more of a connection:
Tom Brady is arguably the best QB in the NFL right now, for sake of argument we'll say he is.
Tom Brady would make a poor Safety.
Therefore it is harder to play Safety than Quarterback.

It's different skill sets. Boxing is a more controlled specialized sport. Most boxers are better punchers than most MMA guys. Most MMA guys have more rounded skill sets than boxers.

I enjoy both sports, I actually don't mind when matches go to the ground it's very tactical if you know what's happening. But, Boxing is a different sport you tend to see more subtle fighters, true counter punchers, outside fighters, things that the rules and ring in boxing allow.

[postmortem]

Brock Lesner became the UFC's Undisputed Heavyweight Champion in just 4 fights, and in just 3 previous wins.

Ok, yea yea, he has a big Wrestling background, and Wrestling is a big part of the UFC.

Matt Skelton was a previous kickboxer, and boxing is a big part of kickboxing, he didn't get anywhere.

Vitali Klitschko was a professional Kickboxer, I didn't see him get a title shot with the Undisputed Heavyweight champ after having a record of 2-1.

wow mma is a far deeper sport than boxing; punches, kicks, elbows, knees, takedowns, ground transitions and submissions. Boxing is a very specific skill set while mma is a wide variety of skills. I like boxing more than mma but it is not a deeper sport.

[princemanspoper]

In terms of talent? Yes it is.That is not even a debate MMGAY fanboys will even try to argue unless they are as delusional as you.To be great in boxing you need great skills,To be great in MMGAY you need to be a good grappler,have a love for rolling around half naked in a cage and atleast one tatoo.Top mma fighters have attempted to try their hand at boxing and failed miserably.In mmGay a ****ty,bar room brawler can achieve some degree of success

boxing is supposed to be a part of mma yet every mma fighter you watch doesn't seem like they've taken a boxing class in their life lulz

[ShoguNinja]

I'm a big fan of both Boxing and MMA. This two sports requires discipline, dedication, smart, heart and skills. Both sports compliment each other in a good way.

[postmortem]

In terms of talent? Yes it is.That is not even a debate MMGAY fanboys will even try to argue unless they are as delusional as you.To be great in boxing you need great skills,To be great in MMGAY you need to be a good grappler,have a love for rolling around half naked in a cage and atleast one tatoo.Top mma fighters have attempted to try their hand at boxing and failed miserably.In mmGay a ****ty,bar room brawler can achieve some degree of success

boxing is supposed to be a part of mma yet every mma fighter you watch doesn't seem like they've taken a boxing class in their life lulz

boxers are better at all things related to boxing but mma includes all of those and a lot more. MMA fighters don't have the time to develop the same level of boxing skills that professional boxers have because there are many other things that they have to train as well. If a pro boxer fights a mma guy in the cage he will likely lose but he does have a punchers chance, in a boxing match the mma guy doesn't even have a punchers chance.