Why does the americans constantly fail to give the Klitscho's the props they deserve?

[Mr. Fantastic]

wlad can be 80-3- and 0 and American fans still wont put him in the top 10 p4p while american fighters like paul williams, chad dawson, tim bradley and other americans with a resume with practically not near as impressive as wlads make it in the top 10 very easily, i remember james toney a few years back was in the top 10 p4p as a Hweight, that was ******ity, hes not anywhere better than wlad as Hweight to be ahead of wlad

I agree!!!!!!!!

[#1Assassin]

i personally am not a fan of eighter klitschko, cuz neighter one has shown the ability to be the great kind of HW champion the sport needs.

i cant stand vitali, so robotic. its just painful to watch.

wlad is more smooth but hes too cautius and his fights are boring. i still prefer watching him jab someone for 12 rounds over vitali. thats when i really feel the HW division sucks cuz vitali looks ****. hes big and strong but im not at all impressed with his skills.

more than anything thats why i dont support the klitshckos, i just feel they would get steamrolled in any other era. neighter one is impressive to me and deserve to be called HW champ.

ill just wait until someone comes along who does, and i dont mean an american. im not american myself. and im so sick of ppl using the american excuse all the time.

[joseph5620]

Please, son, shall I post all of the PMs that you've sent me? And are you denying the tons of disgusting redK comments you've given me?

What exactly did you mean by calling Mangler a "Clarence Thomas" when he denounced Floyd's racist comments again?

Here is just a sample of the ignorance that you've sent me:



Dude, you send me red K and messgaes I have to delete. Don't try to loev and claim I "stalk you". Nothing could be further from the truth. You arer a punk and and a racist whi is njot even on my radar. Show the dates where I have "sralked you" and everyonne will see wghat a liaqr you matre.











As for the thread, with Vitali, it's mostly due to resume. He started late (26) and then took 4 years off. With Wlad, today's division being a bit lacking, combined with his now boring style.

LMAO I meant every word I have said to you. Makes me feel good reading that. Thanks lol. And some of those are not my quotes so you are a liar as well. Now show the DATES so everyone can see how sick you are for saving that and your claims that I have stalked you. Some of those are over a year old. Also, try to deny that you have sent me red K and messages calling me "Malcolm" "son". You even paid another poster "e points" to red K me including the resident bigot PDBS. You are a racist and a little *****. I always destroy you in a debate so you typically go this route looking for sympathy. The "ref cheated and that's why Wlad lost to Brewster". "Lewis head butted Vitali" Those are your beliefs because you are so in love with white heavyweights "Jeffries". Sig that. And nice try editing my messages purposely to misspell them. BTW if that's you in your av I give you props for exposing how ugly you are. AND, those are not "red k" comments, liar. They are responses to what you e-mailed me.

[PittyPat]

^ Lemme guess, might the red have been for something Klitschko-related?

[joseph5620]

I agree!!!!!!!!

Coming from someone who thinks Oscar Delahoya is an all time great and that Margarito didn't cheat. Your agenda is as obvious as Jim Jeffries. When you degrade your country when it comes down to certain boxers you have to ask yourself why. In your case it's obvious when you look at the fighters you don't like. Yeah America is so "mean and biased" yet your ass lives here.

[mathed]

Wlad's more boring than Lewis was

people dont like klits cause they're boring

They are perceived as cautious boxers who put you to sleep, which is why their fights come on ESPN Classic and not HBO.

I did like Wlad's last fight though against Chagaev because he looked more like he was going for the kill and his aggression was good.

[joseph5620]

^ Lemme guess, might the red have been for something Klitschko-related?

Yep. Always.

[PittyPat]

Yep. Always.

Haha. Definitely an agenda on the part of a certain high-and-mighty someone, then.

Not surprisingly, perhaps, is that the only red I've ever received has been from Klitschko nut-swingers, or those that have some bitter agenda about defending their lads from any form of criticism. Very sad indeed.

The best part is that I happen to like younger bro a lot. :laff2:

[joseph5620]

Haha. Definitely an agenda on the part of a certain high-and-mighty someone, then.

Not surprisingly, perhaps, is that the only red I've ever received has been from Klitschko nut-swingers, or those that have some bitter agenda about defending their lads from any form of criticism. Very sad indeed.

The best part is that I happen to like younger bro a lot. :laff2:

Me too. I just don't like his fans because most of them have an agenda that's obvious.

[PittyPat]

I just don't like his fans because most of them have an agenda that's obvious.

Ah, but they're not fans though. A real fan of a fighter looks at things from all angles - both positive and negative, desirable and undesirable - discusses them objectively and doesn't need to resort to insults or a dismissive tone if someone disagrees with them. What we're dealing with here are stans, who are the complete opposite of the above.

Laughably, they always think they're in the right and aren't in possession of a brain capable of rational or independent thought (as evidenced from their tight-knit grouping). It's all very delusional and downright fascinating to observe from a psychological standpoint... but very tiring in the context of boxing, because that's what we're on here to discuss in the end. They just ruin it.

With that said, I have come across a couple of cool Klitschko fans over time. The convos with them were interesting, calm and ended on a positive note (albeit an inconclusive one, as ever).