Miguel Cotto-Manny Pacquiao: It’s Not All Good

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  • Xcusemymood
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    #101
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    In that case, Floyd is barely a Lightweight, his fight night weight is usually 147lb.
    LOLOLOLOL Dave did you really just say that? BUMP!!!!

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    • Xcusemymood
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      #102
      Originally posted by rommel357
      Think? How about spell. Practice what you preach, "THINK" next time you criticize, or at least check your spelling. It's doesn't, not desnt, there is no such thing.
      Thats the only thing you can find to get back at me? A minor typo? LOLOL

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      • Xcusemymood
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        #103
        Originally posted by don miguel
        If same day weigh in is held, he would still not fight Oscar. Pac would be Jnr. MW. while Oscar would be Middleweight



        Are you sure that its fight night weights? I know Floyd weighed 147 against Hatton, 150 against Oscar and 146 against Judah during weigh in and not on fight night. Its impossible that Oscar weighed 150 during weigh in and 148 during fight night
        Oh the fight that was at Jr. Middle?

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        • MegatronCEN*CAL
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          #104
          The Manny nut-huggers are out in full force! Watch out, they are coming for you!

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          • don miguel
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            #105
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Yes I'm sure. Floyd doesn't dehydrate and rehydrate like most boxers do, his weigh-in weight is usually about the same as his fight-night weight. Mayweather's fight night weight was released by HBO, Oscar's wasn't. Floyd weighed 148 on fight night, Oscar probably weighed around 160. As I said, google is your friend.
            I know that Floyd was at 150 during weigh in against Oscar and Oscar was at 154. I don't know if he would or did come in at 148 during fight night. Google could be wrong. Why don't you check the boxingscene archive. BS, espn, si, hbo and ring would be far more reliable.

            Well, if its true, still Floyd is a legitimate WW. If he can't dehydrate to 140 at weigh in, he can't be a JW. While Manny can dehydrate to 135 if he wants to.

            Your reasoning that Manny would be a JMiddle against Oscar if weigh in is held on fight day is wrong. If its aWW fight, Manny would still come in at 143 on weigh in on morning and Oscar at 147. Unless its a JMiddle fight which I'm sure Manny's camp wont agree.
            Last edited by don miguel; 08-05-2009, 07:55 PM.

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            • don miguel
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              #106
              Originally posted by animalavenue
              Oh the fight that was at Jr. Middle?
              Yes. It was a Jr. Middle fight. Floyd was 150 and DLH at 154 during weigh in

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              • Xcusemymood
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                #107
                Originally posted by don miguel
                Yes. It was a Jr. Middle fight. Floyd was 150 and DLH at 154 during weigh in
                So how is that relevant to the discussion? He weighed 4 pounds less than the Jr Welterweight limit DURING THE FIGHT at Jr. Welterweight.

                From knowing this and seeing that he generally comes in around 147-148 at fight time one could conclude that if he HAD TO he could dehydrate and boil himself down to 140 or 135 just like Pac does.

                MAYBE they are 3 or even 5 pounds apart but Pac and Floyd are damn near the same size and for the greats that isnt that much.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by animalavenue
                  So how is that relevant to the discussion? He weighed 4 pounds less than the Jr Welterweight limit DURING THE FIGHT at Jr. Welterweight.

                  From knowing this and seeing that he generally comes in around 147-148 at fight time one could conclude that if he HAD TO he could dehydrate and boil himself down to 140 or 135 just like Pac does.

                  MAYBE they are 3 or even 5 pounds apart but Pac and Floyd are damn near the same size and for the greats that isnt that much.
                  He said that Floyd doesnt dehydrate and rehydrate that much. Then I told him if he can't dehydrate to 140, then he can't be a JW.

                  Maybe Floyd can go down to 140 but don't like it. Maybe it affects him b.c he didn't against hatton and won't against jmm

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                  • Xcusemymood
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by don miguel
                    He said that Floyd doesnt dehydrate and rehydrate that much. Then I told him if he can't dehydrate to 140, then he can't be a JW.

                    Maybe Floyd can go down to 140 but don't like it.
                    Maybe it affects him b.c he didn't against hatton and won't against jmm
                    Exactly. He just stays in fighting shape all the time, unlike most fighters who drain their bodies so they can weigh in at the lowest weight class possible to have an advantage over their opponants.

                    That is why fight night weight is relevant.

                    If Pac and Mayweather come into the ring for the fight weighing the same weight how is is possible that one of them is bigger than the other? Regardless of what they weighed the day before? They are still the same size for the fight.

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