Is Cotto really weight drained at 145?

[Vasyl’s dad]

If Margarito weighed in at 145 against Shane, then so can Cotto... but then again antonio lost that fight w/ shane

The difference being,

Tony was allowed to come in at 147.

Do I think Cotto at 145 will be any different?

No, but I'm just not fond of all the *****footing around by the Pac camp to get a percieved advantage.

and I'm not particularly fond of people saying it should be no big deal to Cotto, but its a big deal if Pac allows him to come in at 147. Just not feeling that.

Won't make my night any different, I just like for things to be proper in the sport.

Might as well just do away with the divisions if the best fighters can't fight an opponent who would be allowed to be at the weight of his choice within the division.

[shogunn]

Thanks for proving my point.

Two pounds is no big deal for Cotto,

But its a hugmongous deal for Pacquiao.

But I guess its ok, "because its a business".

If thats your tune, go watch Wall Street or Glengarry Glen Ross since you're so intrigued by the business aspect of things.

I'll stick to watching boxing for the sporting aspect.


Btw,

everything in this world is business.

I just choose to keep the en****** of sport and business separate. I'm not watching sporting events because I care how much the contestants got paid or who the crowd came to see.

I apoligize if thats how the world works but it is. If it was truly for sport, they wouldnt have weight classes and have another fighter making weight 1 day and blowing up the next day.

And thanks for proving my point. If its not big Deal for Cotto, then why *****. It's a big deal for Manny since he could take other fights for larger amounts of money but he's the one moving up, while Cotto can stay lush and just move down 2 lbs.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I apoligize if thats how the world works but it is. If it was truly for sport, they wouldnt have weight classes and have another fighter making weight 1 day and blowing up the next day.

And thanks for proving my point. If its not big Deal for Cotto, then why *****. It's a big deal for Manny since he could take other fights for larger amounts of money but he's the one moving up, while Cotto can stay lush and just move down 2 lbs.

Whos bitching? This is one of the very few times I've engaged in conversation about this particular fight since it was announced.

I'm offering an opinion on the matter which is precisely what this board is for.

Again I'll ask, if 2 pounds is no big deal for Cotto,

why is it a big deal for Pac?

You, nor anyone else since I asked has answered.

That in itself is quite telling.

[shogunn]

Whos bitching? This is the first conversation I've engaged in about this particular fight since it was announced.

I'm offering an opinion on the matter which is precisely what this board is for.

Again I'll ask, if 2 pounds is no big deal for Cotto,

why is it a big deal for Pac?

You, nor anyone else since I asked has answered.

That in itself is quite telling.

Not a big deal but I dont think Roach and Co want to make it easy for Cotto. Cotto made it a big deal when he said he refused to make 143, so Manny budged. Why should they let Cotto stay where he's at if he's not the draw? and again you and Cotto said 145 isnt **** so....


I think 147 is a big deal to Manny since his best weight is at 140. He can easily make 140 without a fuss, maybe even 135 but Cotto is crying about moving to 145. So that should be fair. I already explained the ODLH situation and meeting him not even in the middle but thats another story. If Manny was such ***** like everyone says he'd refuse and make Cotto move to 140.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Not a big deal but I dont think Roach and Co want to make it easy for Cotto. Cotto made it a big deal when he said he refused to make 143, so Manny budged. Why should they let Cotto stay where he's at if he's not the draw? and again you and Cotto said 145 isnt **** so....


I think 147 is a big deal to Manny since his best weight is at 140. He can easily make 140 without a fuss, maybe even 135 but Cotto is crying about moving to 145. So that should be fair. I already explained the ODLH situation and meeting him not even in the middle but thats another story. If Manny was such ***** like everyone says he'd refuse and make Cotto move to 140.

As long as you admit its a big deal to camp Pac we're good.

What that shows is that camp Pac isn't entirely too confident of beating a prime welterweight, at the welterweight limit.

Thanks.

[shogunn]

As long as you admit its a big deal to camp Pac we're good.

What that shows is that camp Pac isn't entirely too confident of beating a prime welterweight, at the welterweight limit.

Thanks.

right, because he's not a natural welterweight. But if you think 2lbs is completely dimishing Cotto of welterweight status then Id have to disagree with that since I think 2lbs isnt ****. I still think cotto coming in at 145 wont make him a jr welterweight and he's still a formidable welterweight at 145, top 2. But alot of people like to think 2lbs is the end of the world.

[Titing Kabayo]

Again I'll ask, if 2 pounds is no big deal for Cotto,

why is it a big deal for Pac?

You, nor anyone else since I asked has answered.

To make things fair, let them fight halfway...143.5

Pac at 147 is stretched while Cotto at 145 is not because he used to weigh even lower... why can't he do it again on a couple of months preparation? A 147 pac at weigh-in can add only 2 to 3 lbs till fight night while Cotto can add more or less 10 more lbs easily because he used to walk at 155.. do you think it's fair?

It's like racing... Pac is 400cc Honda CBR while Cotto is 700cc suzuki... when the honda cbr reached its maximum speed, the suzuki cotto still has a lot offer...

Bottom line, pac has limits and cannot go over it... while Cotto can go down easily...

[Del Coqui]

Cotto Nuthuggers...

Is Cotto really weight drained at 145? or would it be a fair/even fight?

If all you Cotto nuthuggers/Pac Haters say so, then why not put your money on Pac instead? If you really believe that at 145 weigh-in then blowin up 15-20 lbs on fight night that hes still shot/drained then wtf i dont know what else to say...

ya know, I been saying that. I see the same style of backing up and less active as when he was having problems making 140. I think he is, making 145 is no joke for him,especially if he keeps partying between camps.

[Vasyl’s dad]

To make things fair, let them fight halfway...143.5

Pac at 147 is stretched while Cotto at 145 is not because he used to weigh even lower... why can't he do it again on a couple of months preparation? A 147 pac at weigh-in can add only 2 to 3 lbs till fight night while Cotto can add more or less 10 more lbs easily because he used to walk at 155.. do you think it's fair?

It's like racing... Pac is 400cc Honda CBR while Cotto is 700cc suzuki... when the honda cbr reached its maximum speed, the suzuki cotto still has a lot offer...

Bottom line, pac has limits and cannot go over it... while Cotto can go down easily...

Look, this isn't about being fair, its about preserving the integrity of the weight divisions. Oftentimes, boxing fans here ***** and moan about what could be done to better promote the sport. Well, bending the rules in favor of one fighter over another certainly isn't going to do it. Because if it really was about being fair, we wouldn't be dealing with this catchweight **** at all.

If Manny Pacquiao wants to fight welterweights,
fight them at the welterweight limit.

Nobody is making him seek out these guys, this is his own doing.

I have to be fair and give Manny the same criticism I would give any other boxer.



Shogunn, same thing, if Manny has problems with the size of the welterweights, stay out of the division.

Its not like there isn't anyone else for Manny to fight. He obviously wants the accolades that come with a win, but not willing to accept the full risk involved.

[D-Omonist]

GTR, I see you are new here. "Cotto Nuthuggers"...isn't a good way to start here in NSB.