Is Cotto really weight drained at 145?

[shogunn]

For those who say it doesn't make a difference,

then why not ditch the catchweight and fight at the actual welterweight limit?


Its only 2 pounds so it shouldn't be a big deal right?

Something tells me that argument only seems to work in Pacs favor.

vice versa. Why does Cotto only allowed an advantage. Alot of people seem to forget pacquaio's best weight is at 140, and he can easily dominate at 140 like he showed with Hatton.

Manny is fighting at junior welter weight and welterweight taking on bigger fighters, why should he bend over since he's the draw? he can easily make more money waiting for mayweather or fighting Shane. Cotto should be lucky Manny is meeting him at 145. Manny seems to be the only fighter moving up and down at everyone elses classes. But when Cotto moves down 2 lbs its a robbery. why should it be Manny bending when he's the money maker.

[Kalion]

vice versa. Why does Cotto only allowed an advantage. Alot of people seem to forget pacquaio's best weight is at 140, and he can easily dominate at 140 like he showed with Hatton.

Manny is fighting at junior welter weight and welterweight taking on bigger fighters, why should he bend over since he's the draw? he can easily make more money waiting for mayweather or fighting Shane. Cotto should be lucky Manny is meeting him at 145. Manny seems to be the only fighter moving up and down at everyone elses classes. But when Cotto moves down 2 lbs its a robbery. why should it be Manny bending when he's the money maker.

I think saying that Cotto should be thanking Pac is going over board a bit.Pac is not the god of boxing.Hes doing good but hes not PPV monster like DLH.Hes still behind PBF in terms of ppv numbers. Cotto could make just as much more fighting PBF as he will Pac. It takes 2 to make a fight.If pac had some ginormous following and could do 1mil+ ppv fighting anyone he wouldnt be fighting someone as skilled as cotto, hed just fight a bum and collect a payday. And as far as the weight goes, Manny challenged Cotto. It makes no sense for him to call someone out then they half to handicap them selves to meet the challenge. If your as great as people clamour you to be, fight him at his weight.. Pbf fought DLH at 154 and he never had weighed more than 147 for any fight, Paq has been 147+ pleanty of times.

[javielo]

If he losses then what???????????? he lost to a great fighter stop the bullsht

I am a Cotto and a Pacquiao Fan but also I am from PR so I have to root for my fighter I know everyone here is rooting for their country's fighter and Gayweather haters root for Pacquiao other for Cotto thats all there is....

[ace2ace234]

I think saying that Cotto should be thanking Pac is going over board a bit.Pac is not the god of boxing.Hes doing good but hes not PPV monster like DLH.Hes still behind PBF in terms of ppv numbers. Cotto could make just as much more fighting PBF as he will Pac. It takes 2 to make a fight.If pac had some ginormous following and could do 1mil+ ppv fighting anyone he wouldnt be fighting someone as skilled as cotto, hed just fight a bum and collect a payday. And as far as the weight goes, Manny challenged Cotto. It makes no sense for him to call someone out then they half to handicap them selves to meet the challenge. If your as great as people clamour you to be, fight him at his weight.. Pbf fought DLH at 154 and he never had weighed more than 147 for any fight, Paq has been 147+ pleanty of times.

DO your homework before your post kailon,your gona get ripped to shreads,
Thats the problem with pac fan and mayweater nuthuggers,yis make up **** to discredit a fighter to make you favourite look better...
mayweathers never weighed more than147 are you sure?
can you please also name the plenty of times pac has been at 147?
I think pac should of fought him at 147 they wouldnt of asked for the fight at 145 if it made no difference,but people I doubt it makes much cotto was in great shape against clottey and he weighed in at -1...GEt the **** over it and just appreciate that the fight his happening.

[Thread Stealer]

I'll take Cotto's nutritionist at his word and say he'll be alright @ 145.

[Vasyl’s dad]

vice versa. Why does Cotto only allowed an advantage. Alot of people seem to forget pacquaio's best weight is at 140, and he can easily dominate at 140 like he showed with Hatton.

Manny is fighting at junior welter weight and welterweight taking on bigger fighters, why should he bend over since he's the draw? he can easily make more money waiting for mayweather or fighting Shane. Cotto should be lucky Manny is meeting him at 145. Manny seems to be the only fighter moving up and down at everyone elses classes. But when Cotto moves down 2 lbs its a robbery. why should it be Manny bending when he's the money maker.

First off, I never said anything was a robbery so don't go flapping your lips about something I never said.
Why does Pac want to fight welterweights as long as there are stipulations involved?

It didn't seem to be a problem when he fought DLH, the same DLH who fought as high as middleweight.


Btw, taking a fight in a particular weight division isn't an advantage for the opponent. Its Cottos weight division.

He fought DLH at the 147 limit, but won't fight a prime welter at that same weight?

I like Pacquiao as much as the next boxing fan, but this is a bitchmove plain and simple on the part of team Pacman.

Save all that "hes a bigger draw" **** for someone who cares.

I care about the fight, and the fight, and

did I say,

the fight?

Pac is obviously a great fighter, so I don't see why any fighter needs to make concessions to fight him.

Or,

maybe hes not that great?

Personally, I think hes a great fighter. However, this catchweight deal takes a bit off.

I'll still enjoy the scrap though.

But yea, tell me again why the 2 pounds should be no big deal for Cotto,

but for Pacquiao, it would hold up the fight.

I still haven't had an answer.

[shogunn]

I think saying that Cotto should be thanking Pac is going over board a bit.Pac is not the god of boxing.Hes doing good but hes not PPV monster like DLH.Hes still behind PBF in terms of ppv numbers. Cotto could make just as much more fighting PBF as he will Pac. It takes 2 to make a fight.If pac had some ginormous following and could do 1mil+ ppv fighting anyone he wouldnt be fighting someone as skilled as cotto, hed just fight a bum and collect a payday. And as far as the weight goes, Manny challenged Cotto. It makes no sense for him to call someone out then they half to handicap them selves to meet the challenge. If your as great as people clamour you to be, fight him at his weight.. Pbf fought DLH at 154 and he never had weighed more than 147 for any fight, Paq has been 147+ pleanty of times.

I dont think anyone would agree that Mannys not a draw like DLH. DLH is in his own world. But Id say Manny is more of a draw then Floyd, and much more than Cotto. Manny vs JMM would do alot more than JMM vs Floyd. Floyd vs JMM will be peanuts to Manny vs Cotto. Cotto's only draw right now would only be Manny or floyd. Manny could take on JMM, Mayweather, Mosley, and make as much or more than fighting with Cotto. cotto should be grateful to only come down 2lbs and make his biggest payday ever, while this is just another megafight for Manny.

Are you telling us Manny is a bigger fighter than Floyd? They didnt do official weigh ins for Floyds past 2 fights but Id have to say he was more than 147. He's clearly the bigger fighter comapred to Manny. I dont understand why people are disgrearding Manny going up in weight. He's fighting above his weight limit at 140 while Cotto is only going in two. Manny is the ticket seller proven at the 65% 35% split. Manny is doing more adjusting compared to Cotto yet people look at cotto like he's the victim. Manny could fight JMM at 135 and I gaurantee no one would say **** about a catchweight. But when he's fighting at 145 everyone thinks he's being a cherrypicker.

[shogunn]

First off, I never said anything was a robbery so don't go flapping your lips about something I never said.
Why does Pac want to fight welterweights as long as there are stipulations involved?

It didn't seem to be a problem when he fought DLH, the same DLH who fought as high as middleweight.


Btw, taking a fight in a particular weight division isn't an advantage for the opponent. Its Cottos weight division.

He fought DLH at the 147 limit, but won't fight a prime welter at that same weight?

I like Pacquiao as much as the next boxing fan, but this is a bitchmove plain and simple on the part of team Pacman.

Save all that "hes a bigger draw" **** for someone who cares.

I care about the fight, and the fight, and

did I say,

the fight?

Pac is obviously a great fighter, so I don't see why any fighter needs to make concessions to fight him.

Or,

maybe hes not that great?

Personally, I think hes a great fighter. However, this catchweight deal takes a bit off.

I'll still enjoy the scrap though.

But yea, tell me again why the 2 pounds should be no big deal for Cotto,

but for Pacquiao, it would hold up the fight.

I still haven't had an answer.

**** cotto and the 2lbs. For the fight in the ring, if a fight is a fight, then theyd have it in the streets for no money. This is a professional boxing match. If you dont think 2lbs isnt **** then make Cotto go down to 140., then he could make peanuts fighting berto.

Again, the only reason why Manny took the fight against DLH at 147 is because Manny just fought 1 fight at 135, while most of his career was below 130. To think ODLH calling Manny out and move up to 154 is ****ing ******ed. But since Manny made Oscar look like a girl everyone is saying Manny was a jerk for taking the fight. days before the fight no one gave Manny a chance fighting a bigger ODLH.


Boxing is a business either way you look at it. If it wasnt for money, Manny could stay at 140 and tell Cotto to **** off. Cotto would disagree and can easily drop 2lbs to make the biggest payday of his career. Teh sport is no longer about purists and fights alone. it's a business. I dont understand how people can look at Cotto as such a victim if he's going to outweigh Manny in the ring by 10+ lbs.

[RisAri0]

If Margarito weighed in at 145 against Shane, then so can Cotto... but then again antonio lost that fight w/ shane

[Vasyl’s dad]

**** cotto and the 2lbs. For the fight in the ring, if a fight is a fight, then theyd have it in the streets for no money. This is a professional boxing match. If you dont think 2lbs isnt **** then make Cotto go down to 140., then he could make peanuts fighting berto.

Again, the only reason why Manny took the fight against DLH at 147 is because Manny just fought 1 fight at 135, while most of his career was below 130. To think ODLH calling Manny out and move up to 154 is ****ing ******ed. But since Manny made Oscar look like a girl everyone is saying Manny was a jerk for taking the fight. days before the fight no one gave Manny a chance fighting a bigger ODLH.


Boxing is a business either way you look at it. If it wasnt for money, Manny could stay at 140 and tell Cotto to **** off. Cotto would disagree and can easily drop 2lbs to make the biggest payday of his career. Teh sport is no longer about purists and fights alone. it's a business. I dont understand how people can look at Cotto as such a victim if he's going to outweigh Manny in the ring by 10+ lbs.

Thanks for proving my point.

Two pounds is no big deal for Cotto,

But its a hugmongous deal for Pacquiao.

But I guess its ok, "because its a business".

If thats your tune, go watch Wall Street or Glengarry Glen Ross since you're so intrigued by the business aspect of things.

I'll stick to watching boxing for the sporting aspect.


Btw,

everything in this world is business.

I just choose to keep the en****** of sport and business separate. I'm not watching sporting events because I care how much the contestants got paid or who the crowd came to see.