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  • #21
    Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
    Hey, nobody really laid Wlad out! Sanders knocked him down several times, but Wlad wasn't out cold. He rose to his feet soon after the fight was stopped. And you are talking crap. You DO have to be a big puncher to do that to Wlad. Only Tyson and Dempsey could do such a thing! Or Shavers, if he got lucky. Foreman...maybe.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
      Hey, nobody really laid Wlad out! Sanders knocked him down several times, but Wlad wasn't out cold. He rose to his feet soon after the fight was stopped. And you are talking crap. You DO have to be a big puncher to do that to Wlad. Only Tyson and Dempsey could do such a thing! Or Shavers, if he got lucky. Foreman...maybe.
      You take the meaning of "laid out" too literally, Sanders knocked Wlad silly there was no way Wlad was recovering even if he did beat the count.

      Purrity is not a big puncher don't be fooled by his record the ONLY formidable fighter he's stopped has been Wlad everyone else on his resume are from the tomato can family, and Holmes was not feather fisted but he was no 1 punch KO artist. He's KO's some good fighters Shavers, Smith (who Tyson went the distance with in his prime), Cooney, Spinks,

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
        Another one...maybe you and Moorer should get together.
        What makes you think Wlad would possibly have a chance against Holmes in a 15 rounder ? Shavers hits 100x harder than Wlad. Holmes has a solid right hand, a better jab and better movement than Wlad and a much better chin.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
          You take the meaning of "laid out" too literally, Sanders knocked Wlad silly there was no way Wlad was recovering even if he did beat the count.

          Purrity is not a big puncher don't be fooled by his record the ONLY formidable fighter he's stopped has been Wlad everyone else on his resume are from the tomato can family, and Holmes was not feather fisted but he was no 1 punch KO artist. He's KO's some good fighters Shavers, Smith (who Tyson went the distance with in his prime), Cooney, Spinks,
          I already said my opinion on Cooney and Spinks. And Cooney had Holmes in trouble in the 4th with that body punch. Holmes said so himself, that he was lucky it was the end of the round. What about Tim Witherspoon? Have you guys seen that fight?? Terrible Tim really dominated Holmes and the rotten judges, 2 of them anyway, gave the fight to Holmes. One with 9 points margin!

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          • #25
            Current Wlad beats any version of Holmes in my opinion. Wlad controls space and has allot more power than Holmes ever did. I say the only modern fighter , say beyond Ali that makes problems for Wlad of 2009 is Lennox. Remember though, Lennox was twice stopped by hard right hands and Wlad has probably the best once since Lewis himself.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
              Another one...maybe you and Moorer should get together.
              Maybe you should remove your lips from Wlad's two inch sam peter and stop fondling his steroid shriveled raisin sized nads

              Poet

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
                Michael Moorer has apparently said that Larry Holmes would stop Wladimir K in only a few rounds. Yes, that's correct. He said that LARRY HOLMES, the jabbing machine who was never a knockout artist, would beat WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO, whose 85% percent or so of the fights were won by knockouts, in just a few rounds. Now, either Moorer was drunk when he said that or he is suffering from some serious form of delusions or maybe even racism, who knows. The point is, this is SO WAY OFF and absolute NONSENSE!!

                OK-we all know that Wladimir doesn't really have a world class chin. BUT! He IS actually three and half inches taller than Holmes and moves just as well as he did in his prime. Second, Holmes had problems with punchers of limited technique like Mike Weaver, Trevor Berbick and Earnie Shavers. Third, he was beaten by a LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT and twice! Now, I won't say that Holmes was just lucky to make 20 title defenses and reign for 7 years. Yet we know that that was the weakest era of heavyweights, along with today. If you look at the guys he fought, there really aren't that many big names among them, are they? Gerry Cooney, nothing but a big guy with a big punch but little real prowess. And weak chinned as well. Leon Spinks, the weakest champion ever probably. Couldn't hit. Holmes never fought Gerrie Coetzee, Michael Dokes, Pinklon Thomas or Greg Page. Why not? These guys were the division's hottest names then.

                Everybody is saying Klitschko fights bums. Bums or not, he's fighting what's left in the division right now. He did beat Chagaev, one of the best heavyweights out there. He did beat Tony Thompson, a solid and respectable fighter. He did beat Ray Austin in just 2 rounds and that guy later beat Golota in one round. Lennox Lewis obviously avoided him. He was the first to stop Monte Barrett and Jameel McCline. The first to beat the Nigerian Nightmare Sam Peter. Now how can a guy with such a record be so maligned?? And yet Larry Holmes, despite all his shortcomings, is hailed as one of the greatest fighters in the division??

                Holmes would Ko him. He's leagues better than a one dimensional W. K. Holmes is 6'4 he's pretty tall himself.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by TEDetc View Post
                  What makes you think Wlad would possibly have a chance against Holmes in a 15 rounder ? Shavers hits 100x harder than Wlad. Holmes has a solid right hand, a better jab and better movement than Wlad and a much better chin.
                  If anyone hit 100x as hard as Wladimir, they would be a heavyweight champ into their 60's. Don't be so damn ignorant. Holmes built his legacy on weak opposition. Weaker than Wlad has.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
                    Current Wlad beats any version of Holmes in my opinion. Wlad controls space and has allot more power than Holmes ever did. I say the only modern fighter , say beyond Ali that makes problems for Wlad of 2009 is Lennox. Remember though, Lennox was twice stopped by hard right hands and Wlad has probably the best once since Lewis himself.
                    Finally! Thank goodness, I thought I was the only sensible person here.:-) Holmes is way overated. Ken Norton beat him really. Or it was a draw at least.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
                      Current Wlad beats any version of Holmes in my opinion. Wlad controls space and has allot more power than Holmes ever did. I say the only modern fighter , say beyond Ali that makes problems for Wlad of 2009 is Lennox. Remember though, Lennox was twice stopped by hard right hands and Wlad has probably the best once since Lewis himself.
                      Chase is famous for his nuthuggery of any fighter who's last name ends in ski, ov, off, or ko.

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