Roy Jones. The most talented fighter ever!!!

[AKATheMack]

i also have that fight....and i can argue that floyd was more talented than roy....because floyd did many unorthodox things also, but because of his skill, he was that much more dominant---fights to watch---demarcus corley, bruseles, gatti-----all at 140, just watch the offense lays in these guys----it's both skill and talent-----watch his fights at 130 where he showboats around in many of his fights while staying dominant in the process....i mean, floyd fought with his head out a lot as well as his hands down, just like roy did......it can be argued and I STAND BY THAT.....roy was very dynamic because of his lateral movement and very fast hands.....he threw many combos and his left hook flurries were a thing of beauty, but he was beaten because of his lack of skill in those fights....that's all i'm saying....i wasn't ****ting on roy, and i know you didn't say i was----i'm just saying i wasn't....

i fought for many years, was born into this sport....i know the difference between skill and talent, but the two go hand in hand......closer than any other trait....one minute you have emanuel steward call floyd very talented...on the other hand you have goerge foreman calling floyd very skilled----talent and skill are percieved different on the surface----but they really go hand in hand.....the things roy did, he worked on in camp, that takes skill to manifest that into something magical like he did and be effective with it, which is why i called his style many times very unique.....floyd has an abundance of talent, but he knows when to go back to the fundamentals when he has to....

but throwing lead right lands and lead left hooks isn't something conservative fighters are usually trained to do...they are supposed to jab a lot more, and floyd's jab was much better than roy's jab.....but floyd is know for what? his lead right hands and left hooks, just like roy is known for his lead left hook flurries and leaping right hand leads......they both could be very unorthodox, and they both tended to rely on their reflexes, speed, and timing----which is why they got compared to each other so many times in the past.......

If you had replied to me like that the first time we could have saved a lot of arguing. I think Floyd is a great fighter, I just think as far as god given abilities such as speed/reflexes Roy is in a league of his own. Floyd has very good speed and reflexes, but I think he could be a good fighter without them. Roy has supernatural speed/reflexes and we saw what happened when they started to erode.

[pbftxrs316]

If you had replied to me like that the first time we could have saved a lot of arguing. I think Floyd is a great fighter, I just think as far as god given abilities such as speed/reflexes Roy is in a league of his own. Floyd has very good speed and reflexes, but I think he could be a good fighter without them. Roy has supernatural speed/reflexes and we saw what happened when they started to erode.

i guess we just argued for the hell of it then...anyway, i wasn't trying to pick an argument with you, just making a point......no harm, no foul....

[AKATheMack]

okay-----wait a minute---don't fighters have training camps....roy is no different---you think alll roy does and did was spar to show off just how natural his abilities were....a lot of times in fights, fighters think off of natual instinct, because their opponents are different.....which is why you see fighters do different things in different fights.....

roy has practiced his craft many times as has floyd----what choice do they have----had they not had to practice their would be no reasons for training camps....now save your english lesson for an idiot....i'm not one....by any means....

shadowboxing
padwork
double end bag work
jump roping
speed bag work
sparring


all of these things are practiced.......i've seen roy train many many times and he works on what he does in the ring, he has to.....floyd also.....

Difference in training Floyd works on improving his skills and talents. Roy works more on honing is god given abilities to his advantage. You said yourself they practiced there trade the same then why does Floyd have more skill and way better fundamentals? He works on it. Roy never practiced learning all the basics because he didnt have to.

[AKATheMack]

i guess we just argued for the hell of it then...anyway, i wasn't trying to pick an argument with you, just making a point......no harm, no foul....

Its all good I get a little too amped for the internet sometimes. We have slightly different opinions, but as far as arguing there wasnt a lot of it.

[Burner]

Come on guys hands down. He is the fastest most accurate most skillful most of everything. There is no one who comes close. No matter what you say you'll only say that hes not because you like another boxer. But seriously 20yrs from now he will be known as the Greatest of all time. Same thing happen to ALI when he was still fighting. Oh,... and old school fighters are nothing compared to new school so dont be ******.

No he was just the most athletic..his athletic ability carried him...and when his athleticsm declined he didnt have the boxing skills top stay good...Like Hopkins is doing.

Hes the most athletic......but most talented?..No.

Hes not even in the top 10.

[sandyvahra]

Roy was so good in his prime he didn't need boxing fundamentals. He was so far ahead of his time athletically. We wont see anyone that far ahead of their time for a long long time. Dude fought with his f'n hands down for crying out loud. I think natural ability wise he's up there with anyone who's ever laced them up.

[VirusTI]

Anybody who counts roy out of the top 20 P4P is probably a hater.
Anybody who thinks Floyd is better than Roy P4P is just a fool.

[TredKiller]

Guys this is my post and in the end Roy is the greatest of all time. Sugarray rob was great but like I said it before old school fighters are nothing compared to new school. Our champs today would have crushed sugar Ray Robinson. The only reason you guys defend the old school fighters is because you trying to sound like you known boxing. The old school fighters are ****** and nowhere near the technical briliance of modern day fighters. So **** yall bitches dis westside homie.

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Roy was so good in his prime he didn't need boxing fundamentals. He was so far ahead of his time athletically. We wont see anyone that far ahead of their time for a long long time. Dude fought with his f'n hands down for crying out loud. I think natural ability wise he's up there with anyone who's ever laced them up.

^^^^ just about sums it up.

[rocki1]

He's amazing no doubt.. the problem is he got a little scared and started getting hit a lot.. I mean he could've beat Calzaghe if he would've swung a lot more, he's faster and stronger but hey, **** happend..