Did Henry Armstrong Ever Fought Weight Drained Fighters??

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  • joseph5620
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    #81
    Originally posted by baracuda
    ..135 to 147....no big deal!
    Only a handful of fighters in history have won titles at 135 and 147. Duran and Whitaker come to mind. It's a "big deal".

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    • TheGreatA
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      #82
      Originally posted by Thread Stealer
      I wish the champions didn't basically say to hell with the titles at 130 and 140 right before Armstrong hit his peak.

      Maybe Armstrong could've held the titles at 126 THROUGH 147.

      And then the fight with Garcia should've been for 15 and for the NYSAC middleweight title, not just the California title.
      I would pretty much consider him a 130 and 140 title holder since he beat all the champions who held belts in those weight classes, for example Barney Ross, Benny Bass, Frankie Klick.

      Later on in Armstrong's career he knocked out Tippy Larkin at 140 lbs. A few years later Larkin became recognized as the world jr. welterweight champion.

      Armstrong would have surely beaten Garcia if the fight had gone 15 rounds. He would have then held a version of the middleweight title but I don't like his chances against the other middleweights of his era. I wonder how a Tony Zale vs Henry Armstrong middleweight title unification would have gone, probably not very well for the 140 lb Armstrong...

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      • Ravishing
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        #83
        Originally posted by ElChicano
        Just Curious.

        I'll admit I don't know too much info from those times compared to the current and 2 previous decades.
        Nah Henry Armstrong went to Weltwerweight and fought at the limit. Then went back and defended a title at Featherweight.

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          #84
          Originally posted by baracuda
          ..135 to 147....no big deal!
          Ross did it in under a year and beat top 50 ATG's such as Tony Canzoneri and Jimmy McLarnin while doing it. Fairly impressive I'd say.

          He also beat some lesser known names such as Billy Petrolle, Sammy Fuller and Frankie Klick during that year.

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          • baracuda
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            #85
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            Only a handful of fighters in history have won titles at 135 and 147. Duran and Whitaker come to mind. It's a "big deal".
            what you just said is common knowledge in here.....what i meant is that 12 lbs is not really much.....the accomp is great....btw,106 to 147 is unbelievable..

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            • baracuda
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              #86
              Originally posted by TheGreatA
              Ross did it in under a year and beat top 50 ATG's such as Tony Canzoneri and Jimmy McLarnin while doing it. Fairly impressive I'd say.

              He also beat some lesser known names such as Billy Petrolle, Sammy Fuller and Frankie Klick during that year.
              yes sir,it is....

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                #87
                Originally posted by joseph5620
                Only a handful of fighters in history have won titles at 135 and 147. Duran and Whitaker come to mind. It's a "big deal".
                DLH too, a guy you don't like lol.

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                • El Jesus
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by baracuda
                  what you just said is common knowledge in here.....what i meant is that 12 lbs is not really much.....the accomp is great....btw,106 to 147 is unbelievable..
                  Not really, when you consider the fact that he wasnt a full grown adult yet, you think half the olympians the last 30 years coming out of the united states couldnt come close if they were allowed to turn pro? What matters to me, is pacs career from 126 to now. If were going to gas up what he did at 106, as a teenager, then we need to start factoring his knockout losses at that weight also.

                  Oh your excuse is that he was just a teenager? Exactly.

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                  • ELHURACAN58
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                    #89
                    Originally Posted by pacman777
                    try to accept that whitaker is not all that, hatton can go tru whitakers resume (win fights) undefeated...

                    Oh no he did not

                    Shoot yourself Pacman777

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                    • WhoreUs
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by TheGreatA
                      Then again Armstrong was also smaller than the average featherweight of today.

                      He did carry the extra weight well though, as Pacquiao does, and later on was very solid at 140 lbs.
                      henry would probably be a flyweight or bantamweight today.

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