Did Henry Armstrong Ever Fought Weight Drained Fighters??

[Sonic Flood]

Not really, when you consider the fact that he wasnt a full grown adult yet, you think half the olympians the last 30 years coming out of the united states couldnt come close if they were allowed to turn pro? What matters to me, is pacs career from 126 to now. If were going to gas up what he did at 106, as a teenager, then we need to start factoring his knockout losses at that weight also.

Oh your excuse is that he was just a teenager? Exactly.

Pac won a belt at 112 and 122. You need to bump your head first. Whether he lost 10-15 years ago, he was a champ at that weight.

[Don Flamenco]

It's unheard of.

It's like comparing two shoe collections, where both guys have a lot, but one guy bought them all from Payless for like 25$, while the other paid top dollar.

Now, now. I don't think we should be comparing Manny Pac's accomplishments to a payless shoe collection.

[chinoy]

Not really, when you consider the fact that he wasnt a full grown adult yet, you think half the olympians the last 30 years coming out of the united states couldnt come close if they were allowed to turn pro? What matters to me, is pacs career from 126 to now. If were going to gas up what he did at 106, as a teenager, then we need to start factoring his knockout losses at that weight also.

Oh your excuse is that he was just a teenager? Exactly.

Mike Tyson won his first heavyweight championship aged 20 y/o.......Pacquiao won his Lineal Flyweight at 19 /yo.....

are you going to dispute Tyson's championship belt because he barely got out from his teens????????

[El Jesus]

Mike Tyson won his first heavyweight championship aged 20 y/o.......Pacquiao won his Lineal Flyweight at 19 /yo.....

are you going to dispute Tyson's championship belt because he barely got out from his teens????????

Your comparison doesnt work because Tyson wasnt having trouble making heavyweight, not did he get knocked out from having to cut weight and show up dehydrated. What tyson did was incredible because he was already "Ready" by the time he was about 17 or 18 years old. Different bodies function differently through weight, winning a piece of the heavyweight title at 20 is incredible because its damn near impossible to do.

There will be other flyweights/strawweights/bantamweights etc who will do the same in their teenage years, since those guys tend to by at their best between 18-25. Heavyweights arent a good comparison.

Again. If Pacs accomplishments at the LOW weights are so increible, then how do you feel about him getting knocked out by virtual nobodies on the way up? I personally dont care, but i DO care when you choose to throw out how incredible it was, when in fact he got KTFO by fighters whos names are nowhere to be found these days or really even then.

[El Jesus]

Pac won a belt at 112 and 122. You need to bump your head first. Whether he lost 10-15 years ago, he was a champ at that weight.

And? There a ton of champs in the lower weights. Its a good accomplishment, but its not incredible if you consider the fact that he wasnt a full grown man. This is why i say for pac, what he did at 126-140 is what was incredible because the competition matched the accomplishment, and he was a full grown man. Do you know how many americans would accomplish the same if we were allowed to turn pro at 15? A guy like PBF who started off at i think 106 would have the same accomplishment if it were allowed.

[WhoreUs]

Your comparison doesnt work because Tyson wasnt having trouble making heavyweight, not did he get knocked out from having to cut weight and show up dehydrated. What tyson did was incredible because he was already "Ready" by the time he was about 17 or 18 years old. Different bodies function differently through weight, winning a piece of the heavyweight title at 20 is incredible because its damn near impossible to do.

There will be other flyweights/strawweights/bantamweights etc who will do the same in their teenage years, since those guys tend to by at their best between 18-25. Heavyweights arent a good comparison.

Again. If Pacs accomplishments at the LOW weights are so increible, then how do you feel about him getting knocked out by virtual nobodies on the way up? I personally dont care, but i DO care when you choose to throw out how incredible it was, when in fact he got KTFO by fighters whos names are nowhere to be found these days or really even then.

i wouldn't call singsurat a nobody. he was a top 10 fighter at 112 for some time.

torrecampo was a nobody though.

[El Jesus]

i wouldn't call singsurat a nobody. he was a top 10 fighter at 112 for some time.

torrecampo was a nobody though.

To be honest, torrecampo was the only guy on my mind when i said that. But like i said, that knockout was attributed to the fact that he clearly could no longer compete at that weight.