Pacquiao ducked many, Campbell can't name any

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  • Spacey1991
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    #91
    Originally posted by The Drogba
    If Pacman was willingly to fight Margarito, he should fight Williams. Or fight Mosley. Pacman knows he can beat a one dimesional Mexicans. Yet is scared of an Americans.

    Mosley is the number one WW in the world. He is the worst match-up for Pacman. Pacman is not scared of style but he is Americans.


    Beating African-American shows your are a top fighter IMO.
    So the only way to prove you are a great fighter is to beat an African American... that is ****ing ******.

    I don't care what you say a Williams fight is ******, as would be a Margarito fight... way to big.

    By your logic, all Mexican fighters are one dimensional and the only guys that can be good fighters are Americans.

    I am guessing your American, well if you are so better than everyone else go get in the ring and prove it.

    If you would say slick fighters are a bad option for Manny and Arum knows it then fair enough... but it has nothing to do with being American.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Spacey1991
      So the only way to prove you are a great fighter is to beat an African American... that is ****ing ******.

      I don't care what you say a Williams fight is ******, as would be a Margarito fight... way to big.

      By your logic, all Mexican fighters are one dimensional and the only guys that can be good fighters are Americans.

      I am guessing your American, well if you are so better than everyone else go get in the ring and prove it.

      If you would say slick fighters are a bad option for Manny and Arum knows it then fair enough... but it has nothing to do with being American.
      I think what he is saying is that someone who is being put in the same sentence as "ATG" should be a well-rounded fighter capable of handling most any style, and not just "face first plodders" one after the next.

      I mean, WE GET IT. Pac does well with face first plodders. How about seeing how he does with other styles for a change?

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        #93
        Originally posted by OnePunch
        I'm a fan first and foremost. And since Nate is fighting Bradley on Showtime for the title I'd say Nate's career is going just fine.........
        you are a hypocrite. straight up brah.

        If nate had a chance to fight ricky hatton he would fight him instead of your so called pick of the litter at 140.

        If nate could fight david diaz & make the type of money with that type of risk you would advise nate to take it instead of a guzman or valero.

        If nate could fight oscar & cotto instead of paul williams or mosley you would advise nate to do so.

        Even if u flip the script & u were managing Pacquiao u would make those very same decisions.

        The only reason u take this high morale boxing ground is because u cant have those fights. So u go this route.

        good nite brah. im done with you too.

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          #94
          Originally posted by OnePunch
          As someone who loves the sport more than individual fighters, I am not blinded by how much money this fighter or that fighter makes, and I do not consider their paycheck as validation. It has no relevance.

          IMO Wlad Klitschko is 10 times the champion Pac is. Why? Because he defends his titles, fullfills his mandatories, and never once has said that so and so "doesnt bring enough money to the table". He takes on all comers. He does not consider himself bigger than the sport. And he doesnt hang on to titles he has no intention of ever defending, like pac did with the WBC lightweight title and is now doing with the 140 Ring title. Totally different caliber of person......
          wlad is better than pac? okay.

          fulfilling org mandatories don't mean crap. even winning titles don't mean much anymore.

          his biggest win is barrera. no real titles at stake.

          believe me , pacquiao will get more heat defending against mandatories than he is getting now.

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            #95
            Originally posted by GetSumBrah
            i cant believe im even arguing rockets or bobcats with you. good nite sir.
            since it came into the league in 2004......the charlotte bobcats has won as many championships , conference titles and division titles as the houston rockets.

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            • Spacey1991
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              #96
              Originally posted by OnePunch
              I think what he is saying is that someone who is being put in the same sentence as "ATG" should be a well-rounded fighter capable of handling most any style, and not just "face first plodders" one after the next.

              I mean, WE GET IT. Pac does well with face first plodders. How about seeing how he does with other styles for a change?
              That I respect, but that doesn't mean that fighter has to be African American... that is ******. If it said "Pacquiao hasn't faced Slick fighters", I would agree... it isn't ducking just he hasn't fought any, fair enough... but the African American part to me is all wrong, and it could of just been the case of the guy wording it wrong.

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              • OnePunch
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                #97
                Originally posted by Pink Loc
                wlad is better than pac? okay.

                fulfilling org mandatories don't mean crap. even winning titles don't mean much anymore.

                his biggest win is barrera. no real titles at stake.

                believe me , pacquiao will get more heat defending against mandatories than he is getting now.
                Say what you want about mandatory defenses, but they are the only way that credible challengers without a "big name" can ever get a shot. If everyone did it like Pac does, then only fighters with certain "exposure" would ever get a shot.

                Remember, back when Ledwaba and Barerra gave Pac his shot, there were probably only about 30 people who had even heard of Pac. Good thing both Ledwaba and Barerra didnt say "Pac doesnt bring enough to the table".

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Spacey1991
                  That I respect, but that doesn't mean that fighter has to be African American... that is ******. If it said "Pacquiao hasn't faced Slick fighters", I would agree... it isn't ducking just he hasn't fought any, fair enough... but the African American part to me is all wrong, and it could of just been the case of the guy wording it wrong.
                  Well, I think the connection is that the "slick" style, with lots of footwork, movement, and angles is the preferred style of most lighter-weight African American fighters, so its somewhat synonymous. I mean, lets be honest. How many Mexican or Puerto Rican fighters between 122 and 147 can be classified as "slick"?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by OnePunch
                    Why cant Pac fans just admit that Top Rank has no desire to match Pac with anyone who is the least bit slick? It doesnt mean the fighter is "scared" or any ****** **** like that. It means in plain english that if given the choice, they choose to match Pac with guys who will stand right there, face first, with little to no footwork or head movement. That is the style matchup that best suits Pac. Look, the last time Pac was faced with any movement and angles were the JMM fights, in which Pac went life and death twice. No big mystery there. Move to 135, fight a plodder in D. Diaz. Move to 140, fight a plodder in Hatton. Choice between anyone at 140, or Shane, or Cotto? pick Cotto.

                    It is what it is. And its not about being "racist". It just happens that the one style matchup that Top Rank prefers to stay away from is the most popular style for lighter-weight African American fighters.

                    The *******s are really getting out of hand. It will be nice when he loses to Cotto so those idiots will go back to watching billiards and darts.
                    pacquiao didn't duck anybody. if there is one slick black guy that brings decent amount of money, he would have fought him already..... FACT

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                    • OnePunch
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by aether
                      pacquiao didn't duck anybody. if there is one slick black guy that brings decent amount of money, he would have fought him already..... FACT
                      You don't know that to be true. Its only your opinion. FACT

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