Pacquiao ducked many, Campbell can't name any

[Spacey1991]

Well, I think the connection is that the "slick" style, with lots of footwork, movement, and angles is the preferred style of most lighter-weight African American fighters, so its somewhat synonymous. I mean, lets be honest. How many Mexican or Puerto Rican fighters between 122 and 147 can be classified as "slick"?

That's fair enough, just when I was talking to the other guy he was giving me the impression that only African American's can be slick, if you get what I mean? Which would be ******... but that is fair enough that there are more Black fighters that are slick at the lower weights than others.

[WhoreUs]

Say what you want about mandatory defenses, but they are the only way that credible challengers without a "big name" can ever get a shot. If everyone did it like Pac does, then only fighters with certain "exposure" would ever get a shot.

Remember, back when Ledwaba and Barerra gave Pac his shot, there were probably only about 30 people who had even heard of Pac. Good thing both Ledwaba and Barerra didnt say "Pac doesnt bring enough to the table".

pacquiao was never the mandatory for either ledwaba or barrera.

pacquiao was a short notice replacement because ledwaba's opponent backed out.

barrera chose pacquiao as a tuneup and didn't take pacquiao seriously as a challenger seeing as he was coming up from 122 and had a good enough name and hbo liked pacquiao.

pacquiao was on the undercard of delahoya-castillejo as well as the undercard for tyson-lewis. he also had been in several regular hbo broadcasts before the barrera fight.

[OnePunch]

That's fair enough, just when I was talking to the other guy he was giving me the impression that only African American's can be slick, if you get what I mean? Which would be ******... but that is fair enough that there are more Black fighters that are slick at the lower weights than others.

Actually, Joan Guzman is really the only non-African American fighter I can think of that I would call "slick" that has been around Pac's weight range for the past few years. Mayyyyyyybe Casamayor, but thats kind of a stretch.

[aether]

As someone who loves the sport more than individual fighters, I am not blinded by how much money this fighter or that fighter makes, and I do not consider their paycheck as validation. It has no relevance.

IMO Wlad Klitschko is 10 times the champion Pac is. Why? Because he defends his titles, fullfills his mandatories, and never once has said that so and so "doesnt bring enough money to the table". He takes on all comers. He does not consider himself bigger than the sport. And he doesnt hang on to titles he has no intention of ever defending, like pac did with the WBC lightweight title and is now doing with the 140 Ring title. Totally different caliber of person......

i think you're bitter as hell that nate won't get a fight with pacquiao EVER. nor he will be half as great. it must be a sad thought that nobody knows who the hell nate campbell is. fighting pacquiao would get him some attention, too bad that will never happen.

pac fought top competition. his fight choices is based on what is best for his legacy/bring the most money. those who think otherwise must know jack **** or trying to pursue some other agenda.

[Mighty_Windir]

Manny ducked CHOP-CHOP!!!!

[aether]

Say what you want about mandatory defenses, but they are the only way that credible challengers without a "big name" can ever get a shot. If everyone did it like Pac does, then only fighters with certain "exposure" would ever get a shot.

Remember, back when Ledwaba and Barerra gave Pac his shot, there were probably only about 30 people who had even heard of Pac. Good thing both Ledwaba and Barerra didnt say "Pac doesnt bring enough to the table".

pacquiao was a substitute for the ledwaba fight. it was like 2-weeks notice.

pacquiao was a tune up for barrera to prepare him a match againts morales. he was a 1-8 underdog. a TUNE UP.

your argument is starting to lose grip.

[OnePunch]

i think you're bitter as hell that nate won't get a fight with pacquiao EVER. nor he will be half as great. it must be a sad thought that nobody knows who the hell nate campbell is. fighting pacquiao would get him some attention, too bad that will never happen.

pac fought top competition. his fight choices is based on what is best for his legacy/bring the most money. those who think otherwise must know jack **** or trying to pursue some other agenda.

Ross Greenburg, Kerry Davis, Mark Taffet, and Ken Hershman know who Nate is. And Nate's last HBO fight came within 400k viewers of the widely promoted JMM-Diaz fight (Nate against the unknown Funeka did 1.2 million viewers with no promotion, and JMM-Diaz did 1.6 million viewers with serious promotion by HBO), so I think its safe to say that people know who Nate is. lol

[aether]

Ross Greenburg, Kerry Davis, Mark Taffet, and Ken Hershman know who Nate is. And Nate's last HBO fight came within 400k viewers of the widely promoted JMM-Diaz fight (Nate against the unknown Funeka did 1.2 million viewers with no promotion, and JMM-Diaz did 1.6 million viewers with serious promotion by HBO), so I think its safe to say that people know who Nate is. lol

good for you then. but saying pacquiao has ducked black dudes/ slick fighters is down right idiotic. he got the fights that were best for him legacy wise and money wise. being number 1 p4p and one of the highest paid athletes in the world is evidence of that.

sorry, but there are much better fights there for pac than nate campbell.

[OnePunch]

pacquiao was a substitute for the ledwaba fight. it was like 2-weeks notice.

pacquiao was a tune up for barrera to prepare him a match againts morales. he was a 1-8 underdog. a TUNE UP.

your argument is starting to lose grip.

It has nothing to do with my argument. We just happen to disagree. I happen to disagree with you that fighters who are already multi-millionaires should let money be the #1 driving force in their fight selections. And as a fan, why should I give a **** how much they make anyways? And the standard is not equally applied. Jones does a cash-grab with Tito, and gets blasted for it. Pac does a cash-grab with DLH and gets praised. *******s say "Floyd hasnt fought the top guys at 147", yet Pac never fought the top guys at 135 or 140. People shouldnt change their position just because they happen to like the fighter involved. Be consistent.

That's one thing about internet forums that never ceases to crack me up. There is no "disagreeing" You either agree with someone, or you are an idiot who doesn't know anything.

[aether]

It has nothing to do with my argument. We just happen to disagree. I happen to disagree with you that fighters who are already multi-millionaires should let money be the #1 driving force in their fight selections. And as a fan, why should I give a **** how much they make anyways? And the standard is not equally applied. Jones does a cash-grab with Tito, and gets blasted for it. Pac does a cash-grab with DLH and gets praised. People shouldnt change their position just because they happen to like the fighter involved. Be consistent.

That's one thing about internet forums that never ceases to crack me up. There is no "disagreeing" You either agree with someone, or you are an idiot who doesn't know anything.

a lot of people got pissed at that fight (including me) but not with pacquiao, but with Oscar. the ass kicking pac gave to Oscar must have made a lot of people forget that he was the heavy underdog in that fight. don't let the odds fool you. pac has a significant fan base that people are gonna bet on him no matter what. still, it was a 2-1 fight.

pac beating this guy actually upped is legacy, and the money wasn't bad either