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  • Sergiy Dzinziruk has a better resume that Clottey and has a world title. I hope this fight is made. Williams will expose this european bum

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    • Originally posted by formarkiz View Post
      Just because he almost beat Cotto, he is not a big name.
      I didn't say he's a big name (but nor is Williams), I said that he's a much bigger name now, after the exposure he got in his fight against Cotto, which many thought he deserved to win, than he was before that fight.

      Originally posted by formarkiz View Post
      Just about everyone came away from that fight think Cotto just isn't as good as either he was or people might of thought.
      That's not true. You're entitled to your opinion, but most of the fight reports by respected boxing writers were full of admiration for both fighters. See here for example.

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      • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
        Goosen said that he was/is willing to give Mosley a career payday
        since the Cotto fight if he gave Paul a shot. Mosley don't want it?
        If he lands the fight with Pacquiao he probably won't even make that
        much because Pacquiao is asking for 65/35.
        Even at 65/35, Mosley could expect to get about $7 milliion - whereas Goossen has only offered him $3 million to fight Williams (and even that was only a press article, not a formal offer). Plus HBO has put Mosley under zero pressure to fight Williams, because of the fact that Williams is no longer fighting at Welterweight. That would change if Williams beat Clottey convincingly. Mosley would then be put under real pressure by HBO for the first time to fight Williams. So would Cotto (if he gets past Pac), and so would Mayweather.

        If he stays at Jnr Middleweight or fights at Middleweight they'll never be put under any pressure to fight him, because many people don't even believe he is capable of fighting at Welterweight any more, and they'll see his refusal to fight Clottey as proof that he was just bluffing. And the longer he goes without fighting at Welterweight, the less credible his claims to still be capable of doing so will seem to most people.

        So it comes down to how much he really wants those fights. If he is really serious about wanting them, then he needs to fight Clottey.

        If he wants to establish himself at Jnr Middleweight, fine, he should just say so and quit pretending that he's still a Welterweight, and that none of the Welterweights will fight him.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 07-06-2009, 06:38 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          Williams is a complete hypocrite. He doesn want none of Clottey.

          Most Feared my arse
          halla at 'em Dirk ......Clottey is the REAL MOST FEARED!!!

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          • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
            Even at 65/35, Mosley could expect to get about $7 milliion - whereas Goossen has only offered him $3 million to fight Williams (and even that was only a press article, not a formal offer). Plus HBO has put Mosley under zero pressure to fight Williams, because of the fact that Williams is no longer fighting at Welterweight. That would change if Williams beat Clottey convincingly. Mosley would then be put under real pressure by HBO for the first time to fight Williams. So would Cotto (if he gets past Pac), and so would Mayweather.

            If he stays at Jnr Middleweight or fights at Middleweight they'll never be put under any pressure to fight him, because many people don't even believe he is capable of fighting at Welterweight any more, and they'll see his refusal to fight Clottey as proof that he was just bluffing. And the longer he goes without fighting at Welterweight, the less credible his claims to still be capable of doing so will seem to most people.

            So it comes down to how much he really wants those fights. If he is really serious about wanting them, then he needs to fight Clottey.

            If he wants to establish himself at Jnr Middleweight, fine, he should just say so and quit pretending that he's still a Welterweight, and that none of the Welterweights will fight him.
            I think that is a fair enough statement and it makes sense. If he wants
            Welter then fight Welter, if not, then just stay at the higher weights
            and do your thing, don't continue to beef about not getting any fights
            at 147........I see what your saying.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              I think that is a fair enough statement and it makes sense. If he wants
              Welter then fight Welter, if not, then just stay at the higher weights
              and do your thing, don't continue to beef about not getting any fights
              at 147........I see what your saying
              .
              Thats my thing too. All of this "most feared" **** stops now. Fight who you want but stop trying to market yourself as some beast that everyone is running from.

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              • Originally posted by The Drogba View Post
                Sergiy Dzinziruk has a better resume that Clottey and has a world title. I hope this fight is made. Williams will expose this european bum
                He is no bum but the thought of being exposed make all his fans trying to keep him away from the Williams fight.

                The same people would be calling Williams a coward and pressing for a fight if Williams was 40 years of age. In this case Clottey wouldn't even be mentioned. Sergei would win easy as expected and that would elevate him to ATG status for some reason. :S

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                • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                  Even at 65/35, Mosley could expect to get about $7 milliion - whereas Goossen has only offered him $3 million to fight Williams (and even that was only a press article, not a formal offer). Plus HBO has put Mosley under zero pressure to fight Williams, because of the fact that Williams is no longer fighting at Welterweight. That would change if Williams beat Clottey convincingly. Mosley would then be put under real pressure by HBO for the first time to fight Williams. So would Cotto (if he gets past Pac), and so would Mayweather.

                  If he stays at Jnr Middleweight or fights at Middleweight they'll never be put under any pressure to fight him, because many people don't even believe he is capable of fighting at Welterweight any more, and they'll see his refusal to fight Clottey as proof that he was just bluffing. And the longer he goes without fighting at Welterweight, the less credible his claims to still be capable of doing so will seem to most people.

                  So it comes down to how much he really wants those fights. If he is really serious about wanting them, then he needs to fight Clottey.

                  If he wants to establish himself at Jnr Middleweight, fine, he should just say so and quit pretending that he's still a Welterweight, and that none of the Welterweights will fight him.
                  Even if Williams doesn't fight Clottey I don't believe it's because he's
                  scared because Clottey would get beat up by Paul for real.

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                  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    Even if Williams doesn't fight Clottey I don't believe it's because he's
                    scared because Clottey would get beat up by Paul for real.
                    Williams is the only one who has called people "scared" when it reality, its about risk/reward to the likes of Mosley. The exact same reason Williams wont fight Clottey.

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                    • Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      Williams is the only one who has called people "scared" when it reality, its about risk/reward to the likes of Mosley. The exact same reason Williams wont fight Clottey.
                      What exactly does Clottey offer??

                      When Williams offered Cotto a fight he held a belt.
                      When he offered Margarito rematch it was for the ring belt??


                      Williams gets more credit beating Dzinziruk. He has a belt and a better resume than Clottey. Who's best win till date is a past it Judah

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