Margarito Says The Weight Will Hurt Cotto With Pacquiao

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  • wengz2002
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    #51
    Honestly, I think Cotto is a very difficult fight for Pacquiao!
    Cotto is Completely different from Hatton!

    I'll be surprise if Pac knocks Cotto out~
    This will be the Hardest fight for Pac to date~

    I'm really impressed by which Pac take the direction of his career...
    It seems every fight is a Big Challenge~

    Can't wait............

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    • HML88
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      #52
      the last person i wana hear from is margarito. a cheating slime ball. Roids is 1 thing. everybody gets on athletes when take them. atleast they arent hurting anybody physcially. what he did was ****ing criminal and God knows how many times he did this.

      boxing is dangerous already. all it takes is 1 shot and to load ur hands? sick **** him and trainer

      he should gotten more than a yr

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #53
        Originally posted by crillz
        it's not picking and choosing man it's common sense, fighters who do that aren't just going to do it 1 time, he's never been caught before and almost didn't against Mosley if it weren't for Naazim Richardson, it could have been Jack Mosley and it might have passed and Tony would have probably won, either way had he been allowed to carry on with that set of gloves he would have been boosted up with a very big power jump. other guys weren't that smart and probably didn't have their own people looking at how he wraps his hands so when he uses them he looks flawless and when he doesn't he gets KO'ed.. true Shane had a good plan to win but with plaster Shane would have had to show more respect to his "power".'.

        since it can't be proven and he wont come out and admit it all we are left with is a fighter with a flawed credibility, how can we trust what he says when regardless of words it was PROVEN in court after examinations that there was an illegal substance in his wraps? he has no more credibility and with a guy like that I wont **** around and say o well it may have only been once when it could very well have been more knowing other guys were sleeping on the hand wrapping process or were more passive and let it go, we were used to thinking that he was earning his wins so we gave him respect but he proved otherwise and you might say I can't prove he did use them but you can't prove he didn't, due to his proven attempt it flaws whatever credibility he had.

        and yea he took what Cotto had to give... to his FACE, but had he attacked the body and been more aggressive he would have been more successfulk and comfortable in the fight, OHH right I forgot the ****in cheater had plaster and how are you supposed to remain composed when plaster is smashing you up from the opening bell, Cotto's legs were gone by the 6th because every time Tony hit him plaster was smashing against Cotto' body, you ever take body shots from a guy with plaster in his hands? I'm sure your legs would be out by the first, that is why Cotto's nose broke so early because there was more than just fists in padding hitting him, there was a cheater across the ring and he got away with it and it pisses me off that people want to stand by this guy, he can make money doing other things man Boxing doesn't need a guy like that around, he betrayed us , the fans, with those actions..
        We will never really know is he used plaster on Cotto. What too many people are not considering is that he may have given Cotto a legit beating. Psychologically that could be a huge factor in a rematch between the two. I am well aware of what Cotto has publicly said but who know what he thinks deep down? Whatever the case is we will never find out until a rematch. I think the outcome depends on what Cotto in his heart of hearts thinks really happened that night, and I think a beating like that and the way Cotto's offense was in ineffective is hard to expunge from a fighters mind.

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        • North Star
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          #54
          Originally posted by HML88
          the last person i wana hear from is margarito. a cheating slime ball. Roids is 1 thing. everybody gets on athletes when take them. atleast they arent hurting anybody physcially. what he did was ****ing criminal and God knows how many times he did this.

          boxing is dangerous already. all it takes is 1 shot and to load ur hands? sick **** him and trainer

          he should gotten more than a yr
          Tony got his license revoked and cannot reapply for 1 year. Even then, Tony has to reapply and hope the commission grants him his license. If not, then he'll be out in the cold.

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          • rod_serrs
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            #55
            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            That goes into the lines of "picking and choosing" when he did or didn't start cheating. Which loses all credibility.

            Also, Cotto's camp not checking the wraps is ******ed. Its a trainers job to check wraps. Hell, Freddie had a problem with ODLH using too much gauze. You can't tell me Evangelista didn't check the wraps. It would be completely inconsiderate for a trainer to do so. Then the commission also checks the wraps, for 13 years no one had a problem with the wraps until Mosley? That right there leans to Margarito being innocent and only guilty of attempting to cheat Mosley.

            If people want to hate Margarito go ahead. That is them hating with no just cause. But to try to make it seem like he cheated with no evidence. Not even a valid reason for him cheating. Is rediculous and ******.
            I'll tell you, Evangelista will tell you, Coach Santiago will tell you, hell even Margarito's camp will tell you no one from Cotto's camp bothered going to check the wrapping process. Cotto has stated several times that it was an error on his camps behalf. It's been proven by comments from all sides that no one in Cotto's camp was there for Margarito's wrapping. The same commisission your talking about it the same one that missed the illegal wrap in the Mosely fight so I really don't have to much faith with that point. I did state that was a hypothetical situation with the 'picking and choosing' but it is a possible situation. As far as him starting with the Cotto fight how is that losing credibility. If he did start or attempt for the Cotto fight then that is just putting an explanation to your earlier comments. For the record I don't hate Margarito and am actually eagarly awaiting his return.

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            • crillz
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              #56
              Originally posted by F l i c k e r
              That goes into the lines of "picking and choosing" when he did or didn't start cheating. Which loses all credibility.

              Also, Cotto's camp not checking the wraps is ******ed. Its a trainers job to check wraps. Hell, Freddie had a problem with ODLH using too much gauze. You can't tell me Evangelista didn't check the wraps. It would be completely inconsiderate for a trainer to do so. Then the commission also checks the wraps, for 13 years no one had a problem with the wraps until Mosley? That right there leans to Margarito being innocent and only guilty of attempting to cheat Mosley.

              If people want to hate Margarito go ahead. That is them hating with no just cause. But to try to make it seem like he cheated with no evidence. Not even a valid reason for him cheating. Is rediculous and ******.
              credibility? yo dogz it was TONY who lost all credibility when he tried to cheat against Mosley, you think it's accidental that the hands were being wrapped BEFORE Naazim was in the room? they tried when they had a little alone time with Naazim and Shane and you mean to tell me they didn't do that when NO trainer showed up to see the wraps? only took their words for it and didn't even get along with the fighter he is supposed to be defending, infact he even did a ****ty job training him, you telling me that isn't a possible reality? or at least a MORE possible reality after what has been proven about him has been revealed?

              better scenario, if a masked man kept robbing 1 of your loved ones everyday for months at gunpoint, day after day he would make it so that y'all are alone and you can't make a move or run forcing you to give in, and one day a family member who hasn't got robbed yet in the past is coming home and manages to snatch his mask off and reveal his face and run off back home to you. he tells you who it was, you telling me you wont expect the man who robbed your family members all those times to be the same man who just got caught trying to stick up your relative now? if you're smart you'll know how that analogy applies or at least what I'm hinting to you..

              you say for 13 years he hasn't been accused of this right? well that's because in 13 years he hadn't been faced with a trainer smart enough to check his wraps, officials probably got paid off, people were irresponsible or whatever the case may be no one had really pressed him about it. you can't just say it's 1 or the other, either he used it in all of his fights or he never had prior used it, he knew when to use that **** yo and whether you want to believe it or not he used it against Cotto, bet your house on it fam he did but he isn't ****** he wont admit it..

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                #57
                Originally posted by rod_serrs
                I'll tell you, Evangelista will tell you, Coach Santiago will tell you, hell even Margarito's camp will tell you no one from Cotto's camp bothered going to check the wrapping process. Cotto has stated several times that it was an error on his camps behalf. It's been proven by comments from all sides that no one in Cotto's camp was there for Margarito's wrapping. The same commisission your talking about it the same one that missed the illegal wrap in the Mosely fight so I really don't have to much faith with that point. I did state that was a hypothetical situation with the 'picking and choosing' but it is a possible situation. As far as him starting with the Cotto fight how is that losing credibility. If he did start or attempt for the Cotto fight then that is just putting an explanation to your earlier comments. For the record I don't hate Margarito and am actually eagarly awaiting his return.
                To be fair, in the Cotto fight it was the NSAC. In the Mosley fight, it was the CSAC. Different commissions however the fact that nobody from Cotto's camp were present in Margarito's dressing room is true.

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                • crillz
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by rod_serrs
                  Your absolutley right though we can only speculate. As a Cotto fan however I feel the same way Cotto does. He came out of the fight the ultimate winner. If Margarito cheated it was partially his camps fault, but Margarito goes on to lose his next fight and his license, as well as any money he could have made during this time. Whereas Cotto is 'gifted' a title and then goes on to fight an elite WW and puts on an inspiring ballsy performance as he does just enough to win a big fight against Clottey. And currently Cotto is the grand prize winner in the Pacman Lotto, and Margarito is still clouded as to where he is currently headed as far as fighting a meaningful fight in the US or a stay busy fight in Mexico.
                  true man, to me for my own mind the damage spoke for itself, he's faced lesser men than Cotto and didn't do as much damage, Cotto has taken punches from worse punchers and hasn't been cut so badly and the man who cut him so badly has never done that kind of damage in his whole life as a televised Boxer, is it coincidence? nah man can't nobody tell me the sky is pink when I'm looking at it and it's blue, the damage on Cotto's face said it all yo it was a sabotaged fight, and now Tony's whole career is in doubt.. Cotto, the clean fighter is getting what he always should have had and was cheated for and that's WW supremacy, he's on his way to achieve that..

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                  • Deja_Vous
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by F-22 Raptor
                    this makes absolutely no sense. as a puertorican cotto fan, i can say that 145 is extremely fair for miguel. the fight will not be at 143... 145 is fine and weight should not be an issue in this fight. there's no excuses, nobody can say that miguel will be at a disadvantage here.
                    Cotto won't be allowed to rehydrate.It will be in the contract,just like it was in the Oscar fight.

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                    • crillz
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      We will never really know is he used plaster on Cotto. What too many people are not considering is that he may have given Cotto a legit beating. Psychologically that could be a huge factor in a rematch between the two. I am well aware of what Cotto has publicly said but who know what he thinks deep down? Whatever the case is we will never find out until a rematch. I think the outcome depends on what Cotto in his heart of hearts thinks really happened that night, and I think a beating like that and the way Cotto's offense was in ineffective is hard to expunge from a fighters mind.
                      of course his offense was ineffective because he brought the wrong game plan, he fought in a way that style wise benefits Tony and with the added boost in power all Tony had to do was walk him down. Cotto had to respect Tony's power more than he normally would have and even still the fight was a draw going into that 11th round so even with a messed up game plan Cotto was never down, he was up and then it was even but he wasn't below at least on my card. he went wrong because you have to go downstairs with Tony and even though you may not back him up you have to stand there and trade smarter punches with him, also the fight had to stay in the middle of the ring. Cotto already had a bad game plan which in turn allowed Margarito to hit him already let alone the plaster which only intensified the damage done, there was a 75% power increase in EVERY punch thrown so you do the math.

                      Cotto didn't have a solid team that night, he doesn't point fingers so he takes the blame but honestly yo he was cheated, he caught a bad break. he basically trained himself and brought a bad game plan so he was already weak for that and then if that isn't bad enough the guy he fights uses plaster in his wraps. it all played against him, due to problems in camp he presented the wrong style, a style which opened him up to be hit and even worse when he got hit it was with plaster. those were bone breaking shots man it isn't hard to see..

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