Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

[m00ks]

Simple really


Better in-ring technician = Mayweather
Better prize fighter by purist standrads = Pacquiao

[Horus]

"Better" is subjective.

Pac is proven against the best so therefore we have empirical evidence that he is "better".

Floyd is a natural talent, but he's unproven against the best in his natural weight class and the above classes that a fighter like Pac has had the guts to chase down.

As it stands now, Floyds talent is hypothetical, Pac's is proven.

Pac FTW.

You just said Calzaghe is greater han Mayweather..
honestly why bother arguing anymore???

why are you in a mayweather thread?
you have nayweather ranked not even in the top 10 in this era?

Why dont you make a Joe calzaghe or cotto or shane mosley thread to talk about their true greatness.?


Why are you even in a fighter who you think is not even in the 10 of this era thread arguing about his greatness...?

[Horus]

Simple really


Better in-ring technician = Mayweather
Better prize fighter by purist standrads = Pacquiao

What Purist?

Boxing Purist?
By what criteria?

[dans]

The fact that Pacquiao is only winning this poll by 20 votes or so tells me what I already knew. Mayweather is the better fighter.

With all the Mayweather haters and Pacquiao fans, how could Pacquiao lose this poll?

I voted for Mayweather because he's the better fighter, by any standards.

[PinoyZoi]

The fact that Pacquiao is only winning this poll by 20 votes or so tells me what I already knew. Mayweather is the better fighter.

Not to mention all Floyd Stans has over 3 2ndary accounts.

[shogunn]

The fact that Pacquiao is only winning this poll by 20 votes or so tells me what I already knew. Mayweather is the better fighter.

With all the Mayweather haters and Pacquiao fans, how could Pacquiao lose this poll?

I voted for Mayweather because he's the better fighter, by any standards.

first, a poll on a boxing forum doesnt make cement another boxer as better than the other

2nd, it still has Manny winning, yet some how that proves to you mayweather is better?


Regardless of the the outcome of this poll went, you wouldve went mayweather.

[Horus]

[B]

first, a poll on a boxing forum doesnt make cement another boxer as better than the other

2nd, it still has Manny winning, yet some how that proves to you mayweather is better?


Regardless of the the outcome of this poll went, you wouldve went mayweather.

MAYweather vs PACquaio: BATTLE FOR SUPREMACY !!!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=230325

[shogunn]

MAYweather vs PACquaio: BATTLE FOR SUPREMACY !!!
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=230325

read teh first sentence you just quoted me on

[DonTaseMeBrah]

better boxer = mayweather

better fighter = pacquiao

better resume = pacquiao

who wins between a great fighter vs a great boxer?

Countless examples for both sides.

[JulVal]

To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

Consider this scenario. Pacquiao started fighting as a dirt poor fighter who didn't really have any cash to fend for his training, conditioning, and health. He had nothing at age 21. We may even say that he's malnourished . He came from a poor Filipino family.

Now consider Floyd's scenario at age 21. Was he dirt poor? Was he starving and was he fighting just so he can provide food and shelter for his family.

You people tend to forget that an athlete needs proper nutrition, diet and training for them to be able to perform really well. Which PACQUIAO didn't have throughout the earlier points in his career.