Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

[J.R]

To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

Simple, Mayweather was a big 130 pounder moving up to 147 and is now in his Natural weight class, Pacquiao is a small guy moving up above his natural weight at 147.....

[FranjoTuđman]

POLL speak for it self.

[Bretty Poy32]

it self speak for its POLL

[Chups]

Makes no difference. Boxing is about pitting styles. One dude doesn't stand over another because someone says they're more skilled than the other. That's why they actually fight.

Even if Pacquiao were to beat Floyd, it wouldn't change the fact that Floyd may be more skillful than Pacquiao, it would mean Pacquiao was the better man that night.

And if you're referring to being subjective by saying Pacquiao is an exciting fighter, you yourself are being subjective by saying Floyd is better than Tyson. At the end of the day, that's your opinion.

That's right......and even if Floyd beats Pac......Pac still has a better resume than Floyd.

[DrewWoodside]

To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

Manny Pacquiao

• he's been knocked out in the first round before
• he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
• Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.

You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.

You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

.I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.

While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

Just think about that..?

You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.


So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

• Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
• Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
• Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez

Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

no way.



Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter

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[mellow_mood]

I got floyd mayweather jr as a better fighter of the two of them...

Unfortunately for mayweather jr, manny pacquiao's willingnes to face "THREATS", style of fighting, heart & charisma have give an impression that hes better than mayweather or at least is way more appreciated than floyds accomplishments

[Glamour Puss]

"Better" is subjective.

Pac is proven against the best so therefore we have empirical evidence that he is "better".

Floyd is a natural talent, but he's unproven against the best in his natural weight class and the above classes that a fighter like Pac has had the guts to chase down.

As it stands now, Floyds talent is hypothetical, Pac's is proven.

Pac FTW.

[Reservation]

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He's trying to channel Mayweather through his writing.

[Horus]

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drew to be honest. i could careless what you think.
Like I told Reed, why are nitpicking?
On grammar
On spelling
etc.

This is not an english class
This is not a spelling bee
This is a boxing forum.

Most of us talk in slang, and conjecture anyways so it doesnt matter.

You nitpick, just to hate in my opinion.
That is fine (read the sig)

btw,
The answer to the question.
To why you nitpick?

It is because you like the attention people give you when you hate on Horus.
Plain and simple.

Keep on nitpicking my dude.

[Obdeboondocks]

floyd has all the tools: defensively sound, fast everything, and the most boxing iq today. pac has great power and hits at all anlges. but he is flawed, open to counters, etc. with the way pac has been improving on those flaws however i don't see floyd being that much better than pac though. whichh is why id pic pac if the two were going to fight.