Judge by the Same Standards Who is the BETTER fighter Mayweather or Pacquiao??

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  • Batman-p4p
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    #211
    I would say mayweather is the better fighter all around... pac is pretty good , But he isnt anywhere close to floyd skill wise.. plus the guys that pac beat are washed up..... Except for marquez... who actually beat him twice if you ask me..... butt pac will soon b exposed... trust me... He must be afraid to figh marquez again... Pac should'nt even get a shot at floyd until he can beat marquez without the help of judges

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    • Batman-p4p
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      #212
      Originally posted by Dan...
      Mayweather is the better all-round fighter.

      Still, if Pacquiao keeps beating guys that should be fighting several divisions higher than him he will definately be remembered as the greater of the two.
      I would say mayweather is the better fighter all around... pac is pretty good , But he isnt anywhere close to floyd skill wise.. plus the guys that pac beat are washed up..... Except for marquez... who actually beat him twice if you ask me..... butt pac will soon b exposed... trust me... He must be afraid to figh marquez again... Pac should'nt even get a shot at floyd until he can beat marquez without the help of judges


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      • F l i c k e r
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        #213
        I dont know why this is even being talked about still.

        Pacquiao- Power, speed, in-and-out footwork.

        Mayweather- Defense, timing, counter ability, effective combinations, more intelligence, all angle footwork. Just about everything else under boxing criteria. He also has underrated power(most people judge his power on Hatton and ODLH where he was wearing bigger gloves).

        So who is the better fighter? Last time I checked, being great at just about everything is better than being great at 3 things.

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        • Horus
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          #214
          Originally posted by Horus

          To me this question is basic logic and commonsense. but
          people are obviously judging Mayweather on a higher scale than Pacquiao.
          When they say Pacquiao is greater than Mayweather.

          and that is fine, UNTIL they start saying they think Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

          Once they say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather they can not used double or higher standards no more. they have to judge mayweather and pacquiao on the same standards.

          and once we used the same standards for Pacquiao and Mayweather.
          the argument is not even close for who is the better fighter.

          Now we are judging them on the same scale. and nomore curve for pacquiao since some people say he is now overall better than Mayweather.

          Manny Pacquiao
          • he's been knocked out in the first round before
          • he got outboxed by a washed up Erik Morales
          • Manny Pacquiao fought Marquez , knocked him down three times and still got a draw.


          You have to remember when Manny Pacquiao was getting Knockout
          Floyd Mayweather was winning fighter of the year awards and beat fighters like Genaro Hernandez.


          You have to remember pacquiao was 21 years old when he got knock out in the 3 round ....

          Ask yourself what was Mayweather doing when he was 21 years old?

          .I will give you the answer.. He was winning Fighter of the year awards by knocking out fighters like Genaro Hernandez who never lost at 130.
          By Knocking out fellow top ranked contenders like Angel Manfredy.


          While Pacquiao was getting Knockout by No name opponents.. Mayweather was winning Fighter of the year awards by fighting world class opponents...

          Just think about that..?

          You have to remember the only reason Pacquiao is ranked poud for pound #1 is because Mayweather retired.



          So when place and judge on the same standard...You can not seriously say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

          Oh yeah Mayweather is undefeated.

          Can you say Pacquiao Make it Though Floyd's Resume Undefeated....
          Doing it at the same age, and the same circumstances as Floyd did....

          I can tell you Mayweather would make it through Pacquiao's entire resume undefeated doing it at at the same age, and the same circumstances as Pacquiao.

          • Pacquiao at 24 is not beating A Prime, Undisputed, Best Body Puncher in boxing in Jose Luis Castillo
          • Pacquiao at 23 is not beating a Undefeated, Prime #5 P4P fighter Diego Corrales
          • Pacquiao at 21 is not beating Genaro Hernandez
          • Pacquiao at 23 is not beating A Prime #4 ranked in the division Jesus Chavez



          Pacquiao was getting knocked out in the 3rd round by a fighter name Medgoen Singsurat when he was 21.. So you cant tell me he would beat a fighter like Genro at 21...


          You can only say Pacquiao better than Mayweather when you are applying a double standard on Mayweather. Because if you judge them equally...
          there is no way you can say Pacquiao is better than Mayweather.

          no way.



          Saying all this through Pacquiao is still a great fighter
          Let's go..
          this pac hype is getting out of hand.

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          • The_Demon
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            #215
            floyd mayweather
            end thread

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            • Ravishing
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              #216
              Originally posted by Horus
              Let's go..
              this pac hype is getting out of hand.
              Pacquiao's fights today are more exciting to watch IMO.

              Floyd to me for the past several years is like The Ultimate Warrior (the former WWE star) of Boxing. Flash, controversy, and lots of talk...prior to the bell.

              You can be skilled like a mutha, but that doesn't guarantee victory as the past 100 or so years of Boxing has proven time and time again. Give Floyd's team their due, they know how to pick the right fights.

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              • Horus
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                #217
                Originally posted by Ravishing
                Pacquiao's fights today are more exciting to watch IMO.

                Floyd to me for the past several years is like The Ultimate Warrior (the former WWE star) of Boxing. Flash, controversy, and lots of talk...prior to the bell.
                Exciting is good.
                But Mike Tyson was the most exciting action fighter ever,
                and he is not better than Mayweather!

                and neither is Pacquiao.
                exciting is subjective anyways.

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                • baracuda
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                  #218
                  the poll speaks the truth.......

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                  • shogunn
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                    #219
                    nice poll, good to see you got the results youve been looking for.

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                    • Ravishing
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      Exciting is good.
                      But Mike Tyson was the most exciting action fighter ever,
                      and he is not better than Mayweather!

                      and neither is Pacquiao.
                      exciting is subjective anyways.
                      Makes no difference. Boxing is about pitting styles. One dude doesn't stand over another because someone says they're more skilled than the other. That's why they actually fight.

                      Even if Pacquiao were to beat Floyd, it wouldn't change the fact that Floyd may be more skillful than Pacquiao, it would mean Pacquiao was the better man that night.

                      And if you're referring to being subjective by saying Pacquiao is an exciting fighter, you yourself are being subjective by saying Floyd is better than Tyson. At the end of the day, that's your opinion.

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