Is Cotto the new Vargas?

[lparm]

yory boy campas , winky wright , raul marquez , javier castillejo , ike quartey , wilfredo rivera......

looks like a better resume than cotto to me.



i'll take losses over tito and oscar over a loss to margarito anyday.

Tito ruined Vargas, if Vargas' corner had pulled him out after the 8th round he might still be a top fighter but the extra beating and low blows he took ended his career at the elite that night. Margs IMO did the same thing to Cotto but his fans don't want to admit it. I'm sure after he gets his ass handed to him in either a Margs rematch, a Mosely rematch, or a beatdown by Pac they will realize that Miguel is done at that level. I like the guy and I give him alot of credit to fight some of the best ww of this era but believe me he is done at the elite.

[Mr.Fantastic]

i'm probably gonna get ripped for this... but i see ortiz the new vargas. i think he's way young and gonna get thrown in there early just like vargas.


i don't know who cotto would be.. i don't see him as the new tito though.

I don't see why you should. I think in a way the same thing, I just hope that isn't the case. But I could tell you Perro(who already lost) & Arreola are closer to being like Vargas than Ortiz.

[WhoreUs]

i really dont know if ur serious pink......

i have a nail in my head........brain function is not at 100%.

[JmH Reborn]

So you would say Clottey was an elite fighter? He is only a contender that has always lost at the highest level. He beat a faded Chico and a shot Judah but besides those wins he failed against the 2 best close to prime fighters he fought. Clottey = contender not elite.

His first loss was a DQ if I remember correctly

He was defeating Margarito until he hurt his hands...kinda hard to fault him for that.

And there is nothing wrong with losing to the best WW in the world. He had moments to close the show and he couldn't, but you could also make a case that Cotto dug just a bit deeper to win the championship rounds.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

yory boy campas , winky wright , raul marquez , javier castillejo , ike quartey , wilfredo rivera......

looks like a better resume than cotto to me.



i'll take losses over tito and oscar over a loss to margarito anyday.

Mayorga????????

[WhoreUs]

Tito ruined Vargas, if Vargas' corner had pulled him out after the 8th round he might still be a top fighter but the extra beating and low blows he took ended his career at the elite that night. Margs IMO did the same thing to Cotto but his fans don't want to admit it. I'm sure after he gets his ass handed to him in either a Margs rematch, a Mosely rematch, or a beatdown by Pac they will realize that Miguel is done at that level. I like the guy and I give him alot of credit to fight some of the best ww of this era but believe me he is done at the elite.

i think so.

cotto is on the downslide i believe.



we'll know soon enough if he loses to the featherweight.......

[WhoreUs]

Mayorga????????

dude , vargas was shot by the time he fought shane and ricardo.



tito ruined the boy. vargas would have been better off if he had gotten ktfo in the 1st against tito.

[JmH Reborn]

Tito ruined Vargas, if Vargas' corner had pulled him out after the 8th round he might still be a top fighter but the extra beating and low blows he took ended his career at the elite that night. Margs IMO did the same thing to Cotto but his fans don't want to admit it. I'm sure after he gets his ass handed to him in either a Margs rematch, a Mosely rematch, or a beatdown by Pac they will realize that Miguel is done at that level. I like the guy and I give him alot of credit to fight some of the best ww of this era but believe me he is done at the elite.

We'll see, I see Miguel having more heart and a stronger mentality than Vargas. It could have been very easy for Miguel to quit after the roughing up he endured in rounds 7-8-9 of the Clottey fight, but he didn't. He didn't fold like a tent. It tells me alot about his mental fortitude and his ability to come back.

[pigdestroyer]

I don't see why you should. I think in a way the same thing, I just hope that isn't the case. But I could tell you Perro(who already lost) & Arreola are closer to being like Vargas than Ortiz.

yeah. i agree with that 100%. i hope ortiz is brought up well and does what oscar couldn't do that often (not dissing oscar cos oscar was the **** but he didn't win all the big fights)

[pigdestroyer]

dude , vargas was shot by the time he fought shane and ricardo.



tito ruined the boy. vargas would have been better off if he had gotten ktfo in the 1st against tito.

naw. to me, that's what made vargas vargas. the warrior.