Black America Sorely Needs Real Icon Like Pacquiao

[El Jesus]

AGAIN.. The guy never said black people didn't have Barrack ***** or that he wasn't the biggest influential black figure around. The guy was talking strictly BOXING.. you just trying to add that in there as a strawman. BARRACK ***** has NOTHING to do with BOXING.



Oh, and I could give two ****s if black people support their fighters (which they dont) I'm just pointing out that the author has a point.

Race and the habits and activity of an ethnic group cannot be tied to just one thing, you are telling me im pulling a strawman on argument about race, race has a million factors to which an argument can be argued, and a million reasons behind those arguments. I am telling you, as ANY black person in this thread would likely agree. just look at the response from the blacks in this thread, including myself.

Yet just like during the *****/mccain campaign on other messageboards, blacks give their opinion why they feel what they feel, and those reasons are never good enough, you still cling to whatever reasoning YOU FEEL is correct, instead of taking input from the people actually being addressed. I feel this is your general problem with the majority of your arguments outside of those thread period.

[El Jesus]

As for boxing, it just shows that there is talent pooled from all over the world from all walks of life. The surge of one group or other could be explained by prosperity or desperation or even a cultural change of interests.

this is the best answer in the entire thread.

[krispy kreme]

I don't need to read the article, because the title is ridiculous and says it all.

[JmH Reborn]

Morgan Freeman: Freeman has publicly criticized the celebration of Black History Month and does not participate in any related events, saying, "I don't want a black history month. Black history is American history."[12] He says the only way to end racism is to stop talking about it, and he notes that there is no "white history month".[13] Freeman once said on an interview with 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace: "I am going to stop calling you a white man and I'm going to ask you to stop calling me a black man."[12] Freeman supported the defeated proposal to change the Mississippi state flag, which contains the Confederate battle flag.[14][15]

He's kinda right. President Barrack ***** (for whom I voted) did not concentrate on differences, he concentrated on hope. I don't admire Mr. Freeman because he appears to be a pacified minority, resigned to his position in life, but because of his wisdom and forward thinking. If you are religious we are ALL made in God's image. If scientific, we evolved from the same single origin. There is no quantitative or qualitative difference that should matter anymore.

As for boxing, it just shows that there is talent pooled from all over the world from all walks of life. The surge of one group or other could be explained by prosperity or desperation or even a cultural change of interests.

Excellent point. For a black man, the roads to riches is quicker in basketball and football than the boxing

Whereas for latinos its quicker to become richer in boxing and baseball.

[xzworks]

lol You ****in flips are ******ed...

They got other athletes aside from boxers, and you got one guy that beats on stiff bodies. lol You need to save this dumb **** for your own lil websites.

not written by flips..or you mean filipino.

[El Jesus]

not written by flips..or you mean filipino.

youre right, its just another instance of a white man telling the black community whats best for them.

[Deja_Vous]

u alright by me...and truth be told no other race even come close to dominating boxing like black fighters. even now, from 130 on up there is atleast 1 black fighter in the top 5 of their weight class(except HW). and if paul williams keep doing what he do and lil bam bam keep his love for the sport. we gon keep on dominating!

I wonder why the arcticle didn't read:

White American sorely needs a boxing icon like Pacquiou..

They need one more than anybody.

[MaYaN_SuN]

it's a big deal to you knowing none of you favs can beat pac.....lol

Marquez already did, and I've seen my "favs" in bigger fights. lol And Nothings special about seein a lil asian guy beat on a frail, weight drained zombie. But again, I'm sure it's a sight to behold when you were never really able to see, or cheer for anything in general..lol

[FrankJack]

I agree with the topic creator and he's made pretty good points. His first post isn't downgrading black fighters contributions to the fight game or in any other sport for that matter. In fact, the mention of any other sport is pretty much irrelevant to the point being made. We don't have fighters that we are endeared to in the same way as our parents or grandparents generation was endeared to Ali or Leonard. But, then again, I think there are several things that play a role in the difference of then and now in he regards to boxing.

One reason could be that we are in a much better social standing in this country and the world than was the case during the era of Ali, Frazier, Robinson, Leonard, etc.

I see alot of mention of Manny, but one reason why he is so endeared by his people is that the boxing world, which includes fans of all races, as a whole did not expect him to be as great as he is. In a sense and to an extent he and other filipino fighters are facing a similar situation in the game that great past black fighters have.

But, then as far as ticket sales go, I just don't see that changing. I highly doubt there will come a day when we come out in force like the fans of Pacquiao, Hatton, Cotto, or Chavez.

[JmH Reborn]

I wonder why the arcticle didn't read:

White American sorely needs a boxing icon like Pacquiou..

They need one more than anybody.

Maybe because throughout history white america was never held to the same standard of boxing greatness as black america. So it raises the question as to when the next true black boxing superstar will emerge and capture the eyes of America like SRL, Ali and Tyson did.